FX Update torpedo splash back!

[volodya61]

I finally sorted out what was wrong with effects and edited files sometimes when I complained that changes not works or works wrong.. it wasn't a software conflict..
Sometimes in the test mod folder remain some files.. e.g. old_TDW_FXU_TorpExplosion_Particles.dat or edited_TDW_FXU_TorpExplosion_Materials.dat.. and these files get into the game folder along with other files during enabling through JSGME.. it's weird, but as game doesn't find needed effect in the main file (TDW_Particles.dat or TDW_Materials.dat), it get this effect from any other file..

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Originally Posted by Rosomaha

...But. I have a small collection of textures - explosions, smoke, splashes, and others. If needed, I can help a bit with textures.

Originally Posted by volodya61

Yes, perhaps it would be helpful
Gabriele, what will you say?

the more we are, the better/faster we will do

Thank you Rosomaha, and stay tuned

Originally Posted by volodya61

Okay, I can find 'weight'.. but I can't find 'initial speed'.. only 'velocity'.. don't see 'initial' anywhere..

PS: don't forget.. this is HEX editor, everything is not so easy ..

Sorry, velocity = initial speed

Originally Posted by volodya61

EDIT: what means 'variation'?

It is the maximum random percent quantity (valid range: 0-1) that can be added or subtracted from the previous settings. For instance:

Velocity=2
Variation=0.1

would mean an intitial velocity of 2 units per second (= 20 m/s ? ) ± 0.2 units per second.

The component of this speed in the three axes (i.e. its direction in the 3d space) is determined on turn by the SpeedDirection property. For most particles this is set to 0 / 1 / 0 (x / y / z), meaning that all their initial speed is bound up.
Why do I say 'initial'? for two reasons; first, velocity overlife settings can modify particle's speed at various stages of its life, and second, this speed is also affected by gravitational acceleration, proportionally to itw Weight setting

Originally Posted by volodya61

I finally sorted out what was wrong with effects and edited files sometimes when I complained that changes not works or works wrong.. it wasn't a software conflict..
Sometimes in the test mod folder remain some files.. e.g. old_TDW_FXU_TorpExplosion_Particles.dat or edited_TDW_FXU_TorpExplosion_Materials.dat.. and these files get into the game folder along with other files during enabling through JSGME.. it's weird, but as game doesn't find needed effect in the main file (TDW_Particles.dat or TDW_Materials.dat), it get this effect from any other file..

yes, I forgot to mention it: file naming is often dispensable in SH. What really matters are Id's. A corollary to this rule, is that you should never keep your backups in the same folder as the main files, or the game will apply them as well
There should be a workaround though: changing file extension to one not recognized by SH5 (e.g. rename particles.dat to particles.dat.bak if you want to keep it in the same directory)

[volodya61]

Originally Posted by gap

It is the maximum random percent quantity (valid range: 0-1) that can be added or subtracted from the previous settings. For instance:

I see

Originally Posted by gap

yes, I forgot to mention it: file naming is often dispensable in SH. What really matters are Id's. A corollary to this rule, is that you should never keep your backups in the same folder as the main files, or the game will apply them as well
There should be a workaround though: changing file extension to one not recognized by SH5 (e.g. rename particles.dat to particles.dat.bak if you want to keep it in the same directory)

most of my last issues due to this.. now I see..


Well, I had make several tests and didn't saw big changes.. all their (Initial and Delay) settings almost the same.. except one tab - Creation.. what is this?

[volodya61]

EDIT to the previous post

Creation (Initial/Delay) -

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Other differences (Initial/Delay) -

EmissionArea →
→ SolidAngle 10/0
LifeTime 5/12
BitmapParticles →
→ MaxParticles 20/30
→ Life 2/3
→ Size →
→→ Size 0.8/2
→→ Variation 0.1/0.5
→ Velocity →
→→ Velocity 3/2.5
→→ Variation 2/1

And that is all

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Creation (Initial/Delay) - => initial splash particle generator spawns two times more particles per unit of time than delay particles.
EmissionArea →
→ SolidAngle 10/0 => initial particles are spawned within a space of 10 deg from henerator's origin; delay particles are more concentrated.
LifeTime 5/12 => initial particle generator lasts only 5 secons; delay generators lasts more than two times longer.
BitmapParticles →
→ MaxParticles 20/30 => the game can render up to 20 initial particles (when this limit is reached, the game waits for old particles to disappear before genereting new ones); maximum number of delay particles is 50% bigger in comparison.
→ Life 2/3 => initial particles last 2 seconds before desappearing. Delay particles can last 50% longer.
→ Size →
→→ Size 0.8/2 => on average, delay particles are 2.5 times bigger than initial particles.
→→ Variation 0.1/0.5 => initial particle size varies two times more than delay particle size.
→ Velocity →
→→ Velocity 3/2.5 => initial particles are a bit faster than delay particles.
→→ Variation 2/1 => initial particle's speed varies two times more than delay particle speed.

What about overlife settings? I see there are some difference between the two generators (creation rate overlife). These settings can have a big impact as well

[volodya61]

Originally Posted by gap

Creation (Initial/Delay) - => initial splash particle generator spawns two times more.....

Gabriele, thanks, but explanation was unnecessary , I'm not so stupid
I just wanted to show you differences..

Originally Posted by gap

What about overlife settings? I see there are some difference between the two generators (creation rate overlife). These settings can have a big impact as well

I didn't tested them yet.. maybe tomorrow
Did you think about the new texture for delay? we can use one of unused nodes.. I mean SmokeAdd node or any other.. I don't think that creation a new node in this (TDW_Materials) file is a good idea..

[Rosomaha]

preview-copies:



and some others, like the splash and water-explosion. Maybe you could use something. I sent you the files.

Originally Posted by volodya61

.. and these files get into the game folder along with other files during enabling through JSGME.. it's weird, but as game doesn't find needed effect in the main file (TDW_Particles.dat or TDW_Materials.dat), it get this effect from any other file..

Yes. Sometimes I also noticed like that. Especially working with textures, sometimes instead of new textures in the game appear old or vice versa. This fad JSGME.)

[TheDarkWraith]

Originally Posted by gap

Creation (Initial/Delay) - => initial splash particle generator spawns two times more particles per unit of time than delay particles.
EmissionArea →
→ SolidAngle 10/0 => initial particles are spawned within a space of 10 deg from henerator's origin; delay particles are more concentrated.
LifeTime 5/12 => initial particle generator lasts only 5 secons; delay generators lasts more than two times longer.
BitmapParticles →
→ MaxParticles 20/30 => the game can render up to 20 initial particles (when this limit is reached, the game waits for old particles to disappear before genereting new ones); maximum number of delay particles is 50% bigger in comparison.
→ Life 2/3 => initial particles last 2 seconds before desappearing. Delay particles can last 50% longer.
→ Size →
→→ Size 0.8/2 => on average, delay particles are 2.5 times bigger than initial particles.
→→ Variation 0.1/0.5 => initial particle size varies two times more than delay particle size.
→ Velocity →
→→ Velocity 3/2.5 => initial particles are a bit faster than delay particles.
→→ Variation 2/1 => initial particle's speed varies two times more than delay particle speed.

What about overlife settings? I see there are some difference between the two generators (creation rate overlife). These settings can have a big impact as well

I don't know where you are getting delay particles from The second parameter is a variation in the range 0.0-1.0. Any values over 1.0 are incorrect. The variation works on the first parameter to give you a +- variation EmissionArea is the only exception as the second parameter defines the angle.

[volodya61]

Originally Posted by TheDarkWraith

I don't know where you are getting delay particles from ..

Maybe it's strange but it was yours file..

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Originally Posted by volodya61

Well, I had make several tests and didn't saw big changes.. all their (Initial and Delay) settings almost the same.. except one tab - Creation.. what is this?

Creation => Rate, is the number of particles generated per second. Be careful with it: it has a big inpact on computer performance