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Old 04-08-13, 03:58 PM   #31
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Rest in peace.
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Old 04-08-13, 04:29 PM   #32
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As an admirer of her, though from the other side of the pond, I respect that there are many that disagreed with her positions. Regardless, may her soul find its rest and we all remember a leader who will be remembered.
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Old 04-08-13, 04:40 PM   #33
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Rest in peace Baroness Margaret Thatcher.
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Old 04-08-13, 06:59 PM   #34
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Update from Ron's Pub - Brit friends are split on whether she was the savior of England or damned to hell.

I've decided to let the question be.
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Old 04-08-13, 07:03 PM   #35
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I will only say RIP.

I have foul opinions of her otherwise.(politically)
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Old 04-08-13, 07:31 PM   #36
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Wow, I didn't know how conservative minded she was in american standards, I've listen to some of her speeches from years ago today, and they are about spot on what we are going through now, how a nation more interested in redistrabuting wealth, doesn't inspire wealth creation, sound familar ??????? RIP. wow ain't that truth.
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RIP Prime Minister Thatcher.

For better or worse remembered on both sides on the Atlantic.

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Old 04-08-13, 08:29 PM   #38
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RIP Prime Minister Thatcher.

For better or worse remembered on both sides on the Atlantic.

You can bet her and Ronnie are having a whale of a time wherever they are. That was a time when the 'special relationship' was at its closest since WWII.
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You can bet her and Ronnie are having a whale of a time wherever they are. That was a time when the 'special relationship' was at its closest since WWII.

Yeah, they had a blast reading Ayn Rand books, and de regulating the banking industry, and destroying unions together. Unmitigated capitalism, so tasty, at least for some...

They then both took credit for the collapse of the Soviet Union.
And rode that fame into ruinous policies.

Yeah RIP. I hope your gods forgive you.
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It's two hours, but it'll give you a closer idea of why Margaret Thatcher became such a divisive figure in British history.

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Old 04-08-13, 11:31 PM   #41
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You can bet her and Ronnie are having a whale of a time wherever they are. That was a time when the 'special relationship' was at its closest since WWII.
Well it wont be heaven that's a certainty, now I am off to work with a hangover
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To me, she was a great leader. The political midgets of recent years make this clear. I don't understand why she was a devisive figure.

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Old 04-09-13, 01:36 AM   #43
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To me, she was a great leader. The political midgets of recent years make this clear. I don't understand why she was a devisive figure.

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She was a decisive figure because she had a rugged individualism, looking after self interests, rather than being communitarian, she crushed trade unionism, miners, cut funding to Liverpool, she was detested by many.
She stirred up British nationalism with the Faulklands victory. And she was brought down by her own party.
She publicly announced she was going to bring down the IRA, and look what happened after that. The IRA bombed her hotel room in Brighton.
She was once asked what she changed about British politics. She answered: "everything". Modest? Yes, but she was right.

Margaret Thatcher stuck to the practice of saying what she meant and meaning what she said. When she said the lady wasn't for turning, she wasn't. When she said the Falklands must be liberated come what may, they were. When she said that people would be allowed to buy their own council houses, they were too. When she told European politicians that she wanted a rebate on the billions Britain overpaid the EEC, she held out till she got one.

She went down fighting for her principles; no one was in any doubt about what she stood for or what she believed in. You might not have agreed with her, but few deny that hers was a towering political honesty of the kind hardly ever heard from today's so-called leaders.

Margaret Thatcher was responsible for financial deregulation, getting rid of Britain's exchange controls.
She pissed people off, ruined peoples lives. But she stuck up for what she believed in, adapted to new situations and represented the country with an Iron Fist.

As you can see, pros and cons, she was detested, and liked.

Here are some quotes from her:

"Where there is discord, may we bring harmony. Where there is error, may we bring truth. Where there is doubt, may we bring faith. And where there is despair, may we bring hope."
– on her election as Prime Minister in 1979

"If you want something said, ask a man; if you want something done, ask a woman." – speech to National Union of Townswomen’s Guilds Conference on May 20, 1965

"I am extraordinarily patient — provided I get my own way in the end." – from a March 1982 European Council meeting.


Footnote: What I detest, is not her, but the cheering of her death:
http://sotontab.co.uk/2013/04/08/nus...gret-thatcher/

That sickens me, even though the NUS President Liam Burns gave this statement on the matter later, which of course was forced, is just utter crap!
Whether you liked her, loathed her, detested her, under no circumstances should someone cheer her death! That just shows once again human decency and respect failing, big time.
And that applies to some posts in this thread, mocking her death, albeit veiled, but still mocking it by joking about drinking to her death for example.
Seriously, you may have hated her, hated what she did to your country for those 11 and a half years, but do you really need to disrespect a person's death? Do you?
If you answered yes, then i really wouldn't want to talk to you.
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Old 04-09-13, 01:52 AM   #44
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She publicly announced she was going to bring down the IRA, and look what happened after that.
Yes, she boosted their support and left her succesor to go crawling for a ceasefire and negotiation while publicly claiming the government would never do such a thing.
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