someone please explain the 9mm ammo shortage

[Platapus]

There is a cost for a manufacturer to suddenly increase production. The ammo manufacturers may have determined that the additional sales (if any) would sufficiently offset these production costs.

Some people are choosing to panic and stockpile ammo. This results in a temporary increase in the demand. But does it result in a large enough and long enough increase to justify the additional costs of increasing production? Production is not free and a successful manufacturer has just enough manufacturing capability to handle expected orders.

With MINOR variations?
Post #2 is winning.


So. Wait till the culling starts, drop a few of those DHS Sons-a-whatevers, and take all the free ammo you want.


What they gonna do? Kill you?
Oh.... Wait!...... That's what they was gonna do anyway, right?


Give me a break! How many remember the bunkers sold back in the 50's and 60's?
Cause the government scared everyone with drills and all that crap back then.


Now you have others doing the scare tactic stuff for what end?
To save you?
WRONG answer!!
Look at the bucks they suck out of you. It ain't free folks!
And do you think that every bunker or prepper would be ignored IF a true purge were coming?
You'd be my first targets then I'd hunt the 'runners' down with little problems.

[yubba]

well sooner or later vendors will quit selling to the constitutionally impared.

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by yubba

well sooner or later vendors will quit selling to the constitutionally impared.

Well, it's sooner than you think, I haven't seen Vendor on these forums for a while.

[Skybird]

9mm is for Sissies too afraid to get closer. Real men grind their axe instead.

[August]

Originally Posted by Skybird

9mm is for Sissies too afraid to get closer. Real men grind their axe instead.

Evolved men go with the trusty .45acp and avoid both ends of such silliness.

And TRAINED men drop you at 400+ meters anyway.

[TFatseas]

Originally Posted by August

Evolved men go with the trusty .45acp and avoid both ends of such silliness.

[gimpy117]

"oh god oh no! they're gonna take out guns and then obama is going to rename the US to USSR and make us worship Hitler and Stalin and french food and allah and then we'll all die...so lets buy a whole bunch of ammo and guns while all the ammo companies and bushmaster rub their palms in excitement, and just hope the magnetic repulsion of 10,000 rounds of 9mm can save us from a laser guided bomb or a tank that would in reality be dropped on or driven through your house if there really was an uprising.!!!!!!"

thats pretty much how i see it

[Ducimus]

Originally Posted by gimpy117

"oh god oh no! they're gonna take out guns and then obama is going to rename the US to USSR and make us worship Hitler and Stalin and french food and allah and then we'll all die...so lets buy a whole bunch of ammo and guns while all the ammo companies and bushmaster rub their palms in excitement, and just hope the magnetic repulsion of 10,000 rounds of 9mm can save us from a laser guided bomb or a tank that would in reality be dropped on or driven through your house if there really was an uprising.!!!!!!"

thats pretty much how i see it

Your stereotyping, and your wrong.

Also, the majority of people buying up firearms have been people new to guns. It's not johnny redneck montana militiaman talking to god on a two way radio that's been buying everything up.

[gimpy117]

Originally Posted by Ducimus

Your stereotyping, and your wrong.

Also, the majority of people buying up firearms have been people new to guns. It's not johnny redneck montana militiaman talking to god on a two way radio that's been buying everything up.

yeah but they're still freaking out and buying into a trumped up myth perpetuated by conspiracy theorists. they may not actually believe all of what I said, That was in jest and sarcasm, but they still to some extent buy into the myth that all guns wil be taken away and some evil empire bs

[raymond6751]

I wonder how the sales of knives is going ?

[Ducimus]

I'm surprised nobody's started a thread on that yet. I thought about it, but decided that was best left to Yubba.

[Stealhead]

Originally Posted by Ducimus

I'm surprised nobody's started a thread on that yet. I thought about it, but decided that was best left to Yubba.

Yeah it is surprising to me as well.Of course I notice that it hardly got the attention that a gun incident would get in the media.That stabbing got the same amount of treatment that a very minor firearm incident would get.

This is of course because it flies in the face of the medias agenda on firearms.

@RedOctober In my post about measurements I said barrel length that is incorrect.You are looking for length of the rifle from butt stock to muzzle.

You felt lower recoil because you where using ammo with less powder.Many people will hand load(or purchase hand loads) 7.62x54mm with a lighter powder load to make it more pleasant to shoot.Full power rounds are fairly strong recoil wise and only needed for hunting or in combat or at one time in combat.

I hear guys incorrectly think that 7.62x54mm is on par with .303 in power that is because they are shooting light rounds.

I have made some really light powder loads that my daughter uses(she is 10) in my M44s it still has a bit of recoil for someone that size but it makes it not a nightmare.She tried a few times with more powerful rounds but it was to much recoil for her.


At the Russian armament museum in Tula they have a one off scaled down M91 that was made for Alexei Nikolaevich Romanov(son of Nichols) its caliber was 3.81x27R.There are photos of him carrying it out there on the web.