The Saudi Arabia court system

[eddie]

I'm never surprised by what I read that has to do with Saudi Arabia, but this is over the top! Could you be the one to carry out the sentence?
I couldn't, but on another level, if this guy had done this to someone in my family, the rage within me probably could. All depends on the circumstances, but why don't they just lock him up and throw away the key?

http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2...id=msnhp&pos=5

[TLAM Strike]

Originally Posted by eddie

but why don't they just lock him up and throw away the key?

Because their belief system commands them otherwise.

Quran 5:33

The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land: that is their disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter;

They believe the Quran to be the word of god delivered via their prophet, and they should live their life according to it.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by eddie

I'm never surprised by what I read that has to do with Saudi Arabia, but this is over the top! Could you be the one to carry out the sentence?
I couldn't, but on another level, if this guy had done this to someone in my family, the rage within me probably could. All depends on the circumstances, but why don't they just lock him up and throw away the key?

Islam. Sharia. What else to say.

Islam. Sharia. What else to say.

Errrrrr....Saudi version of wahhibi interpretation of Sharia.

But I know you don't like details and to you only the wahhibis are real muslims.

[HundertzehnGustav]

i mean, our Quran teaches us to turn the other cheek, to not kill...
yet we kill as punishment and keep bickering.
i would say:

Religion.

[Synthfg]

Originally Posted by eddie

, but why don't they just lock him up and throw away the key?

http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2...id=msnhp&pos=5

He was 14 at the time
You don't believe that 10 years in a Saudi jail is punishment enough for a kid stabbing another kid (remember we are talking GBH here, not murder)

[Feuer Frei!]

Originally Posted by HundertzehnGustav

i mean, our Quran teaches us to turn the other cheek, to not kill...

Ours? Or theirs?

yet we kill as punishment and keep bickering.

A trait of ours. Or genes. Killer genes.

i would say:

Religion.

I would say:

People.

To blame it on religion is a cop-out.
Same diatribe every time. When a person of faith, ok, a religious person kills or does wrong we blame religion for it? How? Why?
Is it religion that kills people?
We all know the answer to that one.

[Feuer Frei!]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

Errrrrr....Saudi version of wahhibi interpretation of Sharia.

But I know you don't like details and to you only the wahhibis are real muslims.

That would be wahhabi.

[Cybermat47]

Originally Posted by TLAM Strike

Quran 5:33
They believe the Quran to be the word of god delivered via their prophet, and they should live their life according to it.

I'm not seeing anything about paralysis in that passage. And we also have to remember that this is Sharia law, which is an extreme version of Islam. We can't just say 'A small group of Muslims are doing this horrendous act, the Quran must be the cause of it'. That would be like saying 'A small group of American's are torturing POWs, the constitution must be the cause of it'.

And we also have to remember that this is Sharia law, which is an extreme version of Islam.

No.
Sharia law is whatever someone says it is based on their interpretation, which is why there are as many versions of it as there are people who look at it.

[Cybermat47]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

No.
Sharia law is whatever someone says it is based on their interpretation, which is why there are as many versions of it as there are people who look at it.

Ah, I see. I didn't know that there were many versions of Sharia law, I just thought that it had a strict definition. Thanks for the info

[HundertzehnGustav]

Originally Posted by Feuer Frei!

Is it religion that kills people?
We all know the answer to that one.

true dat, true Dat.

Homo Sapiens or-not-so sapiens sometimes.

Question is: would we be better off without any religion? in the sense of "would humans do less "funky stuff" without the upbringing with religious elements?

More directly: would we be worldwide atheists /agnostics (...) to the bone, would we treat othe in a better manner?

I hope to find out in the next life

[MH]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

No.
Sharia law is whatever someone says it is based on their interpretation, which is why there are as many versions of it as there are people who look at it.

Yet it does not mean that Saudi in many is not representative of Sunni Islam , kind of like Vatican.
There is a lot of fragmentation but lets not fool ourselves or others lol Saudi Islam is the mainstream and that's what matters here.

[Skybird]

Keep religion on a very short line. The more freedom you give it, the more it unfolds its always suppressive, intolerant, control-craving nature. Let it off the chain, and you end with fundamentalism, with inquisition, religious dictatorship, and inhumane things like this punishment now.

Leave religion where it belongs: in the privacy of your cabin. Missionizing, is an aggression. Going public over religion, is politics. Using it as an excuse to act cruelly towards others, is what is at the basis of all three theistic dogmas from all beginning on. and many other religious cults as well.

Yet it does not mean that Saudi in many is not representative of Sunni Islam , kind of like Vatican.
There is a lot of fragmentation but lets not fool ourselves or others lol Saudi Islam is the mainstream and that's what matters here.

How old is the Saudi version?
What you have is an offshoot of an offshoot of an offshoot of an offshoot of an offshoot of an offshoot.......... How is that the mainstream?
It may be the mainstream in Saudi amongst Saudi citizens, but it isn't the mainstream by any means.