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Old 03-14-13, 09:38 AM   #1
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I'm pretty sure we all know Iraq was not behind 9/11.
I wouldn't be to sure about that, after all some people still trot out the other silly false claims and say that they really were true, so why should that line of silly propoganda be any different?
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Old 03-14-13, 10:29 AM   #2
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I wouldn't be to sure about that, after all some people still trot out the other silly false claims and say that they really were true, so why should that line of silly propoganda be any different?
^This exactly.

So we know Iraq was not behind 9/11, so why is this war of aggression (and it was one) still being defended. Saddam may have been whatever, but he also had been an allied dictator for decades before, as have others, from Pinochet to Noriega.
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The Iraq war should go down as the biggest blunder in US history, for certain is was a tragic war in cost of lives and money. I have no doubt Bush was war hungry.
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Old 03-14-13, 10:46 AM   #4
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The Iraq war should go down as the biggest blunder in US history, for certain is was a tragic war in cost of lives and money. I have no doubt Bush was war hungry.
We destroyed Iraq, gave radical Islam a recruiting tool, killed thousands of American soldiers and over a hundred thousand Iraqi civillians, and have screwed this country financially for years to come. All for nothing.

Heckuva job, Bushie.
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We destroyed Iraq, gave radical Islam a recruiting tool, killed thousands of American soldiers and over a hundred thousand Iraqi civillians, and have screwed this country financially for years to come. All for nothing.

Heckuva job, Bushie.
correction, coalition forces are responsible for the death of an estimated 10-15,000 Iraqi civilians in 2003-2010;

Sunni and Shiite extremists backed by Iran, Saudi Arabia, Syria and others were responsible for the murder of an estimated 85-100,000 Iraqi civilians in the same period.

Saddam Hussein is responsible for the death of an estimated 250,000-1,000,000 civilians in 1979-2003.

You would be happier if Saddam Hussein was still in power?
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We didn't go in there to free the Iraqi people.
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We didn't go in there to free the Iraqi people.
No we went in there to remove a dangerous dictator. Mission accomplished.
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^This exactly.

So we know Iraq was not behind 9/11, so why is this war of aggression (and it was one) still being defended. Saddam may have been whatever, but he also had been an allied dictator for decades before, as have others, from Pinochet to Noriega.
The Confederate states decision to secede in 1861 also turned out to be a colossal boneheaded move, but I see people still get quite hot under the collar about it.
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^This exactly.

So we know Iraq was not behind 9/11, so why is this war of aggression (and it was one) still being defended. Saddam may have been whatever, but he also had been an allied dictator for decades before, as have others, from Pinochet to Noriega.
So you support the Saddam regime and would have preferred that he remain in power? And what does this have to do with 9-11 and Cheney?
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So you support the Saddam regime and would have preferred that he remain in power?
I think his point is that you supported the Iraq regime, and on top of that when you decided you didn't love Saddam anymore you unwittingly decided to support the crazy ayotollahs in Tehran instead.

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And what does this have to do with 9-11 and Cheney?
Errrr ....its related dodgy claims by politicians, politicians who you believed, politicians which tried to link 9/11 and Iraq.
Pretty simple isn't it, just join the dots


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Saddam Hussein is responsible for the death of an estimated 250,000-1,000,000 civilians in 1979-2003.
How many of those were murdered when he was a friend to certain western governments?

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Who created the unstable lawless state where the extremists flourished in those years?
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Who created the unstable lawless state where the extremists flourished in those years?
sooooooooo, Iran backed Shiite militias kidnapping, torturing and killing an average 30-50 Sunnis a night at the height of the civil war is the U.S.'s fault?

I suppose Iran developping a nuclear arms program is also the U.S.'s fault?
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sooooooooo, Iran backed Shiite militias kidnapping, torturing and killing an average 30-50 Sunnis a night at the height of the civil war is the U.S.'s fault?

I suppose Iran developping a nuclear arms program is also the U.S.'s fault?
Yeah because like some others here he seems to prefer that Saddam had been left in power to kill another few million innocent people.
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August, Mr Hussein killed those civilians using torture and all kind of suppression as long as he was a 'friend' of the West.

Now it's time for Godwin's law.
August you would have made a perfct SS man, ignoring all evidence and believing your government against obvious´better knowledge', or taking the voluntary decision to not inform yourself at all.

"Mission accomplished" indeed. The thread can now be closed
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So you support the Saddam regime and would have preferred that he remain in power? And what does this have to do with 9-11 and Cheney?

I'm beginning to think it takes the likes of Saddam to run and rule all the sects that want to kill each other. Yes, I would rather he remained in power than to see 1000's of young soldiers die to remove him, not to mention the 1000's of soldiers that now live in pain and dysfunction.

The bigger issue was he wasn't a threat to us.
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I'm beginning to think it takes the likes of Saddam to run and rule all the sects that want to kill each other. Yes, I would rather he remained in power than to see 1000's of young soldiers die to remove him, not to mention the 1000's of soldiers that now live in pain and dysfunction.

The bigger issue was he wasn't a threat to us.
The man was sitting on billions of petrodollars. He never should have been left in power after the 1st Gulf war. You want a Bush to blame over Iraq then '41 is your guy. That and the Democrats on Capitol hill who said the same things that Bush did up until their man left the white house.
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