Cheney Admits that He Lied about 9/11

[Bilge_Rat]

Originally Posted by Catfish

^This exactly.

So we know Iraq was not behind 9/11, so why is this war of aggression (and it was one) still being defended. Saddam may have been whatever, but he also had been an allied dictator for decades before, as have others, from Pinochet to Noriega.

The Confederate states decision to secede in 1861 also turned out to be a colossal boneheaded move, but I see people still get quite hot under the collar about it.

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by Armistead

The Iraq war should go down as the biggest blunder in US history, for certain is was a tragic war in cost of lives and money. I have no doubt Bush was war hungry.

We destroyed Iraq, gave radical Islam a recruiting tool, killed thousands of American soldiers and over a hundred thousand Iraqi civillians, and have screwed this country financially for years to come. All for nothing.

Heckuva job, Bushie.

[August]

Originally Posted by Catfish

^This exactly.

So we know Iraq was not behind 9/11, so why is this war of aggression (and it was one) still being defended. Saddam may have been whatever, but he also had been an allied dictator for decades before, as have others, from Pinochet to Noriega.

So you support the Saddam regime and would have preferred that he remain in power? And what does this have to do with 9-11 and Cheney?

[Bilge_Rat]

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

We destroyed Iraq, gave radical Islam a recruiting tool, killed thousands of American soldiers and over a hundred thousand Iraqi civillians, and have screwed this country financially for years to come. All for nothing.

Heckuva job, Bushie.

correction, coalition forces are responsible for the death of an estimated 10-15,000 Iraqi civilians in 2003-2010;

Sunni and Shiite extremists backed by Iran, Saudi Arabia, Syria and others were responsible for the murder of an estimated 85-100,000 Iraqi civilians in the same period.

Saddam Hussein is responsible for the death of an estimated 250,000-1,000,000 civilians in 1979-2003.

You would be happier if Saddam Hussein was still in power?

[Takeda Shingen]

We didn't go in there to free the Iraqi people.

So you support the Saddam regime and would have preferred that he remain in power?

I think his point is that you supported the Iraq regime, and on top of that when you decided you didn't love Saddam anymore you unwittingly decided to support the crazy ayotollahs in Tehran instead.

And what does this have to do with 9-11 and Cheney?

Errrr ....its related dodgy claims by politicians, politicians who you believed, politicians which tried to link 9/11 and Iraq.
Pretty simple isn't it, just join the dots

Saddam Hussein is responsible for the death of an estimated 250,000-1,000,000 civilians in 1979-2003.

How many of those were murdered when he was a friend to certain western governments?

Sunni and Shiite extremists backed by Iran, Saudi Arabia, Syria and others were responsible for the murder of an estimated 85-100,000 Iraqi civilians in the same period.

Who created the unstable lawless state where the extremists flourished in those years?

[August]

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

We didn't go in there to free the Iraqi people.

No we went in there to remove a dangerous dictator. Mission accomplished.

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by August

No we went in there to remove a dangerous dictator. Mission accomplished.

We went in there to remove a nuclear threat to America; a threat that didn't exist in the first place. And in the process, we gave our real enemies a foothold in Iraq, both geographically and politically while fiscally ruining this nation and destroying other nation's desire to work with us. Mission failure, and several times over.

[August]

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

We went in there to remove a nuclear threat to America; a threat that didn't exist in the first place. And in the process, we gave our real enemies a foothold in Iraq, both geographically and politically. Mission failure, and several times over.

WMD is not nuclear alone and the driving force behind both Iraq use of WMD's and threatened future use of WMDs came from the man and the regime who we removed.

Mission accomplished.

[Armistead]

Originally Posted by August

So you support the Saddam regime and would have preferred that he remain in power? And what does this have to do with 9-11 and Cheney?

I'm beginning to think it takes the likes of Saddam to run and rule all the sects that want to kill each other. Yes, I would rather he remained in power than to see 1000's of young soldiers die to remove him, not to mention the 1000's of soldiers that now live in pain and dysfunction.

The bigger issue was he wasn't a threat to us.

[August]

And that still has nothing to do with whether Cheney lied about presidential authorization to shoot down a terrorist controlled airliner.

No we went in there to remove a dangerous dictator. Mission accomplished.

Please read some Bush.
He kindly sets out all the reasons in simple words just so you don't get confused.

Mission accomplished.

Pure comedy.

[August]

Originally Posted by Armistead

I'm beginning to think it takes the likes of Saddam to run and rule all the sects that want to kill each other. Yes, I would rather he remained in power than to see 1000's of young soldiers die to remove him, not to mention the 1000's of soldiers that now live in pain and dysfunction.

The bigger issue was he wasn't a threat to us.

The man was sitting on billions of petrodollars. He never should have been left in power after the 1st Gulf war. You want a Bush to blame over Iraq then '41 is your guy. That and the Democrats on Capitol hill who said the same things that Bush did up until their man left the white house.

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by August

WMD is not nuclear alone and the driving force behind both Iraq use of WMD's and threatened future use of WMDs came from the man and the regime who we removed.

Mission accomplished.

The cenerpiece of the case given at the UN by Powell was about Iraqi centrifuges There was no program. They did find 60-year old mustard gas, so badly decayed as to be useless and certainly not produced by Saddam's regime. In fact, there was zero capability to produce anything resembling a weapon of mass destruction.

Failure.

And that still has nothing to do with whether Cheney lied about presidential authorization to shoot down a terrorist controlled airliner.

Indeed, but unfortunately in your attempt to defend Cheney you raised the topic of people swallowing silly propoganda.

You want a Bush to blame over Iraq then '41 is your guy.

Errrrr...that Bush had the sense to not hand Iran a regional victory on a plate.