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Old 02-16-13, 11:13 AM   #16
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It'd be interesting to see if New York resorts to making straw purchases for their firearms through other states.
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Old 02-16-13, 11:56 AM   #17
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The revolution begins against the status quo...

The political puppets and the bureaucracy they've created to rob the citizens blind is approaching its conclusion. After usurping the American way of life and making it their own private domain at our expense will no longer be tolerated.
Change is inevitable and resistance is futile.
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Old 02-16-13, 12:31 PM   #18
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I'm going to rule the world with my Dennis the Menace slingshot!
But when they outlaw dennis the menace slingshots only criminals will have dennis the menace slingshots
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It'd be interesting to see if New York resorts to making straw purchases for their firearms through other states.
Errrrrrr...they don't have to make straw purchases, they can legally buy what they like as this boycott is a just a silly publicity shot which has no effect whatsoever

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Well, led by the NRA, gun manufacturers that don't join in will suffer. Gun owners in mass will take their business to those who boycott. Don't know how true, but 1000's are posting at different sites to not buy personal weapons of any type for those that sell to New York.

Yep, in the end, not gonna be much concern, someone will sell a gun, but it will become costly.
You really swallowed the hype didn't you.
But thanks for the link in the OP. that preppie site is a real laugh fest.
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Old 02-16-13, 01:27 PM   #19
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if the police have determined that semiautomatic rifles and magazines that can hold more than 10 rounds are the best weapons to protect the citizens from criminals, then they are also the best weapons for citizens to use to protect themselves from criminals.

I like that. Why should the police (the governmental group most likely to have an immediate adverse on civil rights) have a quality of weapons that the citizens can't have?

I can understand why civilians should not have the same level of weapons that the military has. But the police?

It is more likely that a police force will be used to subjugate the people than a military.
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Old 02-16-13, 03:19 PM   #20
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It is more likely that a police force will be used to subjugate the people than a military.
Will use? More like is using.
Right now, you can't drive through Tennessee with a Buckeye bumper sticker.
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Old 02-16-13, 03:32 PM   #21
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Why should the police (the governmental group most likely to have an immediate adverse on civil rights) have a quality of weapons that the citizens can't have?
Why can the police have flashing lights and sirens?
It just isn't fair, I am being oppressed by not being allowed what the police have in their job, equal rights in flashing lights.
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Will use? More like is using.

I was trying to be nice.
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Old 02-16-13, 04:31 PM   #23
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I'm not going to quote anybody becuase I don't want to single anyone out, at least not at this time. However I will note that people have been both brigged and banned here for making, shall we say, threats of violence against law enforcement. There are some posts here that are inching a little close to that line, and since we have some new players on the field so to speak, consider this a friendly reminder in hopes that nobody says anything that gets them in trouble.

Now, back to it.

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I like that. Why should the police (the governmental group most likely to have an immediate adverse on civil rights) have a quality of weapons that the citizens can't have?

I can understand why civilians should not have the same level of weapons that the military has. But the police?

It is more likely that a police force will be used to subjugate the people than a military.
This is a great point. I believe that the police should not be outgunned by the criminal element but they also shouldn't be turned into an Infantry force. We're not supposed to be policed by the Army.

I don't care what you call him. This is a soldier, not a policeman.
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It is more likely that a police force will be used to subjugate the people than a military.
It is also more likely that they (the police) come upon situations where they
need something heavier than a pistol or a shotgun in their line of work.

Wasn't it the '97 North Hollywood shootout that started the talk about how
poorly armed the officers are against suspects with bodyarmor and automatic
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don't care what you call him. This is a soldier, not a policeman.
The PC version is paramilitary entity.

The war on percieved crime continues. Instituted by those who think they are the law and above the law.
Try not to get caught in the crossfire.
oppression is a sneaky foe.
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It is also more likely that they (the police) come upon situations where they
need something heavier than a pistol or a shotgun in their line of work.
But that is like saying a cabinet maker probably needs a different quality of tools than someone who just bought a flat pack from IKEA.
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Depends on the situation.

If I see this guy and his buddies about to enter a place where known and armed criminals are I say OK.



If I see the same guy dressed and armed like that walking a beat in my neighborhood I'd be a little concerned.
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I'd move to a different neighborhood.
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But that is like saying a cabinet maker probably needs a different quality of tools than someone who just bought a flat pack from IKEA.
That's probably true as well.

And civilians have guns to defend against criminals. Law enforcement has guns to attack criminals.
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