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[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by vienna

Couldn't stand the original -- Shatner seems to have studied at the HoneyBaked school of acting; he ate so much scenery, it's a miracle he didn't die of indigestion. I like the later TV series and I am particularly fond of Deep Space Nine...

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I agree. Shatner had a lot to be desired. He only looked good because he was surrounded by good actors.

[Dowly]

Originally Posted by Oberon

Fixed that for you.

I thought they all were pretty mediocre. Certainly not top 5 scifi material as most
lists rank Wrath of Khan. So, very, illogical all of the movies.

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

What cast? The originals? Next Generation? I enjoyed the originals but I liked The Next Generations better.

The original, Shatner and them. The little I think of ST, I prefer Shatner. Sir Patrick Stewart just isnt IMHO a very good actor. Tho, the Generations cast does have Ryker and the chick he marries.. but then again, the old cast
has Uhura.

Wait.. am I really debating about Star Trek? Goddammit!

Babylon 5! Babylon 5! Babylon 5!

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

He only looked good because he was surrounded by good actors.

And he used make-up.

One very good thing about the old episodes is that I can look at Spock and not laugh my butt off at his ridiculous looks.

[vienna]

.. but then again, the old cast has Uhura.

Truer word ne'er spoken; she was the only reason to watch the original. My god, those legs...

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[Dowly]

Originally Posted by vienna

Truer word ne'er spoken; she was the only reason to watch the original. My god, those legs...

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I was a bit shocked to see how short the skirts were.

[vienna]

I was a bit shocked to see how short the skirts were.

Gene Roddenberry was well-known in Hollywood as an admirer of the female form, in particular, their legs. When the original series was concieved, he made a point of making the feamle uniforms particularly fetching...

Oddly, when The Next Generation was launched, short, leg revealing skirts were in the first one or two episodes and then later scrapped in favor of a sort of jump/pant-suit uniform. It may have had sometihng to do with the female cast members (particularly Marina Sirtis [Deanna Troi]) calling the shorter uniforms the "cheerleaders in space" look...

For those of you not familiar with Uhura, enjoy:



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[Dowly]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

This is the reason to watch The Next Generation:

Marina Sirtis:

Yeah, that's the one.

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

Confirming that Star Trek is the second stupidest thing that I have ever seen.

May I intrude your personal space and give you a manly hug?

Somehow I thought you'd be one to like ST.. then again, I did always think you
as the reborn real Takeda Shingen.

[Oberon]

I'm more a DS9 man myself, TNG was good though, but only after about the third season, the first and most of the second were somewhat cringeworthy. I believe the correct term for it is 'Growing the beard'
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.ph...d/LiveActionTV

DS9 did have trouble in its first couple of season too, but found its feet with the Dominion...and Voyager...well...

Still, there's no law saying you have to like it, personally I go against the rule of Trek and rate The Undiscovered Country as better than the Wrath of Khan, but that's just me.

I think the only TOS episodes I liked were the 'Trouble with Tribbles' and 'Balance of Terror'.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by vienna

Truer word ne'er spoken; she was the only reason to watch the original. My god, those legs...

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Uhura was quite busty.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Dowly

Wait.. am I really debating about Star Trek? Goddammit!

This is the reason to watch The Next Generation:

Marina Sirtis: