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Old 01-28-13, 03:04 AM   #1
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Dodge, duck and weave all you want. The bottom line is this: You troll people, you get banned. Period.
Deal with what was written not with what you want to think was written.

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Yes it is, and yes it does. At least he put a little effort into it. He also doesn't make a habit of mocking people the way you do.
So more words is not neccasarily good.
I "mock" what was written not the person and a picture paints a thosuand words
So which is better to write? "that is silly notion" is it not as good as "that is a really really silly notion that even at a stretch makes no sense"?

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No, and it doesn't matter.
Of course it matters. and the answer is arguably "yes".

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You're diverting the discussion away from your bad behaviour, and it won't work. If you want to discuss, discuss, don't troll.
No, the discussion is exactly where it was, it is you who is trying to divert it because you don't think "" means what it means.

So come along Steve cut to the chase. Go to the bottom line or reverse it and go beyond the top line as far as you want.
If the basis of the arguement make no sense either at the top or at the bottom then the whole arguement makes no sense and is a moment.
Feel free to chose your own top line as far up the weapons chain as you like.
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Old 01-28-13, 11:44 AM   #2
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Deal with what was written not with what you want to think was written.
Here is what was written:
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No arguments, no debate, just an insult. That's trolling. No more.

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So more words is not neccasarily good.
I "mock" what was written not the person and a picture paints a thosuand words
So which is better to write? "that is silly notion" is it not as good as "that is a really really silly notion that even at a stretch makes no sense"?
No, it's not better. Those are also not honest debate. You put up arguments and you justify them. You don't just talk about how something is silly.

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Of course it matters. and the answer is arguably "yes".
Then debate the subject or not, but don't post insults just to do it.

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So come along Steve cut to the chase. Go to the bottom line or reverse it and go beyond the top line as far as you want.
If the basis of the arguement make no sense either at the top or at the bottom then the whole arguement makes no sense and is a moment.
Feel free to chose your own top line as far up the weapons chain as you like.
If you can't debate the subject honestly, then don't comment at all. The bottom line here is that you are closer to the edge than you have ever been.

You have been warned.
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Old 01-28-13, 12:13 PM   #3
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No arguments, no debate, just an insult. That's trolling. No more.
Is D'oh an insult?
Why have you got an insult on the top row of the smilies?
The arguement is that the comment was so obviously preposterous and that D'oh is sufficient to indicate that.

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No, it's not better. Those are also not honest debate
So are you saying the initial post which I quoted cannot have been honest debate?
After all Hundertz only followed the vein of the original line so if his line is not honest debate then the original line is not honest debate either.


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If you can't debate the subject honestly, then don't comment at all.
Honest debate?
Look at the comment. It got an honest response.
Think about it
History provides untold tin pot dictators, police states and genocidal superpowers to use as examples.
Has any one of those crazy regimes followed Augusts "logical" progression to his conclusion?
As the answer is obviously no then the whole arguement is pure fallacy to even suggest that the US will follow a slippery slope which even the most vile regimes in the world have not trodden.
When the arguement put forward is so illogical then there is no need for a detailed answer in a debate as the ridiculousness of the stated position is self evident.
No matter which way you follow the "logic" in that post it still makes no sense.
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Old 01-28-13, 12:18 PM   #4
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This getting to be like WWI.

Millions of words marching forward to die and no noteworthy gain.
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Old 01-28-13, 12:22 PM   #5
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This getting to be like WWI.
Thats because Schlieffen made no sense
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Old 01-28-13, 12:23 PM   #6
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This getting to be like WWI.

Millions of words marching forward to die and no noteworthy gain.
Just now getting to be like that? This six-week multi-thread topic has jumped the shark so many times that the Fonz has developed vertigo.
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Old 01-28-13, 12:27 PM   #7
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Is D'oh an insult?
It depends on how it's used. You used it to insult someone rather than debate them.

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Why have you got an insult on the top row of the smilies?
So people can make fun of themselves, not others.

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The arguement is that the comment was so obviously preposterous and that D'oh is sufficient to indicate that.
No. You show that it was preposterous and why, or you don't comment at all.

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So are you saying the initial post which I quoted cannot have been honest debate?
You aimed that directly at August's quote. Disagree if you like, but no more insults.

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Honest debate?
Look at the comment. It got an honest response.
Whether the comment was valid or not, it was posted honestly. You posted just to insult. Never again.

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Think about it
No, you think about it. This isn't about guns or police states. This is about your behaviour on these forums.

I've ignored your futher attempt to try to justify yourself, since that's all it is. I'll say it one last time: If you have a disagreement, then state it and justify it. Do not post insulting smilies or names ("Skybull"). Either you debate honestly or keep quiet.

This is the last warning.
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Old 01-28-13, 12:43 PM   #8
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It depends on how it's used. You used it to insult someone rather than debate them.
No I used it to indicate that the arguement being put forward was rubbish.

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So people can make fun of themselves, not others.
So I can expect to no longer see people quoting a post followed with for example, which is a quite common occurance from all directions isn't it.

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I've ignored your futher attempt to try to justify yourself, since that's all it is.
You wanted an explaination, you got an explaination.
If you don't want one then don't ask for it.

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You posted just to insult.
So you keep saying, repeat it as much as you like, I know why I posted it and I have told you why I posted it.
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