Stephen King on US gun contols.

[August]

Originally Posted by TFatseas

I find it funny that the book is supposed to "provoke rational discussion" yet all the proceeds go to the largest anti-2A lobby in America.

Yeah, ok.

"Provoke rational discussion" is liberalspeak for "we want to take away your right to own guns a incrementally".

Order they'll be taken:

Assault Weapons (semi-autos)
Saturday night specials (handguns)
Sniper Rifles (anything that can mount a scope)
Trench Sweepers (shotguns)

[Cybermat47]

I myself think that assault rifles should be banned, but not hunting rifles, handguns or shotguns.

[August]

Originally Posted by Cybermat47

I myself think that assault rifles should be banned, but not hunting rifles, handguns or shotguns.

They were banned in 1986. What you have been programmed to call an "assault weapon" is really just a civilian semi-automatic rifle of medium caliber that bears a resemblance to an assault weapon.

When it's the turn of hunting rifles, handguns and shotguns, and it will be you can bet on it, they won't be called that. They'll be called scary names like "High Powered Sniper Rifles and "Saturday Night Special" to scare uninformed people such as yourself into supporting their power grab.

Make no mistake. The politicians pushing for these bans don't give a hoot about protecting school children. This is all about power over the people.

To them I have one thing to say:

[Cybermat47]

Originally Posted by August

Make no mistake. The politicians pushing for these bans don't give a hoot about protecting school children. This is all about power over the people.

They might actually care, but they could just be doing it the wrong way out of fear or plain ignorance.

I personally think that gun control is a good thing, but the American people should decide what happens to them.

[Stealhead]

Originally Posted by Cybermat47

They might actually care, but they could just be doing it the wrong way out of fear or plain ignorance.

I personally think that gun control is a good thing, but the American people should decide what happens to them.

Gun control is a good thing without it you will not hit your intended target.Reasonable gun control is not a bad thing trouble is
the ideas running around right now are not reasonable.

You are correct politicians care about staying in power therefore what ever they feel will keep them in power they will start to "care" about.

[Cybermat47]

^^^

True. Politicians are an annoying bunch at best.

[Stealhead]

Originally Posted by Cybermat47

^^^

True. Politicians are an annoying bunch at best.

Not if you are a lobbyist.One of the most annoying people I ever met was a guy in the Air Force whose goal was to get into OCS(officer candidate school) get a commission then do a stint
as an officer after that he wanted to become a lobbyist.(Officers in the US military all have at least a bachelor's degree many have a Masters).

I hoped that this person would accidentally walk in back of a jet engine at full power he never did sadly.Instead I would rig up a bucket inside his locker so that the door would be closed when you opened it thanks to a rigging of para cord it would dump its contents on whom ever opened the door.Having the intelligence level of a the typical lobbyist he fell for this many times i set this trap for him two or three times each month.Sometimes I also smeared axle grease on the lockers handle that way his hands got dirty hed soon get a washing.

[Sammi79]

I think it is safe to say politicians and their relationship to lobbyists are a significant part of the problem. In a last ditch attempt to garner some rational responses to the essay itself however, I am sure you are aware Mr. King is not a politician or lobbyist. Of course everyone is entitled to express their opinion, about Mr King himself, his views, his work as a fiction writer or indeed any of his individual works, about me, about my posts in this forum etc but this is not why I started this thread.

Since we are off topic I might as well add I have only ever enjoyed 1 book out of several I have read by Mr. King. It is called 'Eyes of the Dragon' and is a sort of Gothic fairytale. His horror writing style never particularly appealed to me, and I have not and very likely will not read 'Rage'. As far as I can tell from a brief days research his political views are definitely leftward leaning but I think you are mistaken to assume he is very far from the middle. Anyway he addresses those points in the essay and he is not advocating the banning of keeping handguns, shotguns, sports or hunting rifles or concealed carry with relevant licenses etc.

@August re the implication that all liberally minded people think guns are evil etc... As Leonard Cohen wrote, 'I'm startled by the beauty of our weapons.'

This is a forum based around warfare. Not to mention a very specific and brutal part of an exceptionally brutal war. Correct me if I'm wrong, but everyone here has a deep appreciation for military prowess and the engineering genius and aesthetic of weapons. Weapons in general, but not excluding guns. I would love nothing better than to blast a few targets with an L86 LSW which I think is a good looking (probably on my own here) and exceptional weapon, but I don't think I should be allowed one just because 'I' know I'll be safe. I know, it doesn't matter what I think - what does matter to me is what you think about the article and the essay described therein. I would be very grateful if anyone who is American and a gun owner/enthusiast as is Mr. King would oblige me. Rather than attacking Mr. King, attack his arguments laid out in his essay. Think of it like this: It's open season on his essay! bring the best firepower you can get! Rational debate is not doublespeak for government conspiring tyranny, or liberals stealing liberty, it is discussion. You all have strong views, I'm sure you won't be damaged in any way, or heaven forbid suffer any permanent change of viewpoint. What are you afraid of?

If as Sailor Steve said, 'I won't pay to read anything by that hack.' (That I can understand entirely) I would happily purchase it for you (at a £ a pop I can afford a tenner) if that is acceptable you can PM me with an email address. You will need a Kindle or Application to view it obviously, and as a gift you will be able to exchange it for gift vouchers of some sort according to Amazon. I leave that to you to sort out what you can get for a $.

I'll check back in later if anyone wants to take me up on that. One time only, first come first served.

If you truly have no interest in discussing the topic, with me or with Mr King, feel free to ignore this thread, in fact I humbly request you do so. No replies, the thread dies. Fair enough?

[MH]

Originally Posted by August

They were banned in 1986. What you have been programmed to call an "assault weapon" is really just a civilian semi-automatic rifle of medium caliber that bears a resemblance to an assault weapon.

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So what is assasult rifle- browning 0.5?
so called Civilian guns are exactly same with little iwork around.

"Provoke rational discussion" is liberalspeak for "we want to take away your right to own guns a incrementally".

[HundertzehnGustav]

"Dey slowley wunt ta teek ur gunz away". is redneckspeak for "Provoke rational discussion"

[Platapus]

Originally Posted by Sammi79

Very droll.

I had a light breakfast. Drolls and Coffee.

[Penguin]

Some liberalwrite I can pretty much agree with: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment
It's all in the comma.
Like said before, I wish Team conservative would fight with the same energy for the rest of the Bill Of Rights than they do for the 2nd Amendment.

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

[...]the guide on how to conduct a schoolroom shooting (Rage)

'Rage' is a school massacre guide in the same way like 'It' is a guide to become a killer clown...

[Oberon]

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

Anything to add, or just trolling again?