What are you reading right now?

Cybermat47 · 01-26-13, 02:26 AM

I'm reading All Quiet on the Western Front. Many here suggested that I watch the movie, but my Mum wants me to read the book first.

Also, I happened across something in the house. It was Das Boot, the novel. So now I'm going to read two war epics centered around Germans!

Sailor Steve · 01-26-13, 10:44 AM

Excellent! You could certainly do worse.

Herr-Berbunch · 01-26-13, 03:48 PM

I've got All Quiet lined up, but need to finish As Used On Nelson Mandela by Mark Thomas.

One guy I was glad not to have met whilst serving.

Jimbuna · 01-29-13, 11:21 AM

Ebook version

sharkbit · 01-30-13, 01:45 PM

@ jimbuna:

IIRC, a revised edition came out after Ballard discovered the wreck with some revised thoughts from the author on Ballard's findings.

Just curious-is your e-book a revised edition or the original?

I bought this book when it came out. Good book by the senior ranking survivor.

Jimbuna · 01-30-13, 07:08 PM

Can't say right now because it's stored on one of my home systems and I'm currently at work.

kranz · 02-01-13, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Ebook version

she sinks at the end.

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Originally Posted by sharkbit

Just curious-is your e-book a revised edition or the original?

I bought this book when it came out. Good book by the senior ranking survivor.

I have a 2000 edition (in Polish). From what I remember Ballard's point was that she was sunk by the crew rather than as a result of the damages.
However, the author doesn't give any clear answer to this, as he was in the rear of the ship.

Jimbuna · 02-01-13, 04:26 PM

I guess the true facts will never be known but the actual outcome will always be recognised as to what Churchill ordered....'she had to be sunk/destroyed'.

Sailor Steve · 02-05-13, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by kranz

she sinks at the end.

Stop giving away spoilers!

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I have a 2000 edition (in Polish). From what I remember Ballard's point was that she was sunk by the crew rather than as a result of the damages.
However, the author doesn't give any clear answer to this, as he was in the rear of the ship.

I've been fascinated by that, since Ballard's pictures show Bismarck buried up to the waterline, making it impossible to see any underwater damage. Maybe I'm missing something, but it seems to me that the controversy is no closer to being solved than it ever was.

This documentary is the best I've seen.

It includes interviews with Ted Briggs and Baron von Mullenheim-Rechberg. The Baron mentions the controversy and ends saying "You can say to both sides, 'You sank the Bismarck'".

Jimbuna · 02-22-13, 07:07 AM

Sailor Steve · 02-24-13, 04:33 PM

I have the 1980 version, so of course I'm no help there at all.

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Originally Posted by kranz

From what I remember Ballard's point was that she was sunk by the crew rather than as a result of the damages.

I've read several commentaries on the available information, and I'm still at a loss to understand on what he bases that claim. He says there is no evidence of underwater shell hits or torpedo penetrations, yet every photograph and illustration shows the hull sitting in mud up to the waterline. There is no way to see if there is underwater damage or not. I fail to see how Dr. Ballard or anyone else can draw any conclusion more absolute than "unknown".

Jimbuna · 03-11-13, 12:41 PM

01-26-13, 02:26 AM	#1
Cybermat47 Willing Webfooted Beast Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Australia Posts: 5,408 Downloads: 300 Uploads: 23	I'm reading All Quiet on the Western Front. Many here suggested that I watch the movie, but my Mum wants me to read the book first. Also, I happened across something in the house. It was Das Boot, the novel. So now I'm going to read two war epics centered around Germans! __________________ Historical TWoS Gameplay Guide: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?p=2572620 Historical FotRSU Gameplay Guide: https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/sho....php?p=2713394

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01-26-13, 03:48 PM	#3
Herr-Berbunch Kaiser Bill's batman Join Date: May 2010 Location: AN72 Posts: 13,203 Downloads: 76 Uploads: 0	I've got All Quiet lined up, but need to finish As Used On Nelson Mandela by Mark Thomas. One guy I was glad not to have met whilst serving. __________________

01-29-13, 11:21 AM	#4
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,473 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Ebook version __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

01-30-13, 01:45 PM	#5
sharkbit The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 1,529 Downloads: 334 Uploads: 0	@ jimbuna: IIRC, a revised edition came out after Ballard discovered the wreck with some revised thoughts from the author on Ballard's findings. Just curious-is your e-book a revised edition or the original? I bought this book when it came out. Good book by the senior ranking survivor. __________________ “Prejudice is blind. There will always be someone who says you aren’t welcome at the table. Stop apologizing for who you are and using all your energy trying to change their minds. Yes, you will lose friends, maybe even family. But you will gain your self-respect. You will know your worth. Once you have that, nothing can stop you.”

01-30-13, 07:08 PM	#6
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,473 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Can't say right now because it's stored on one of my home systems and I'm currently at work. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

02-01-13, 04:26 PM	#8
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,473 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	I guess the true facts will never be known but the actual outcome will always be recognised as to what Churchill ordered....'she had to be sunk/destroyed'. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

02-22-13, 07:07 AM	#10
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03-11-13, 12:41 PM	#12
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,473 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	__________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!