Transitioning from 4 to 5...

Stargazer · 01-11-13, 04:18 PM

Bum!... I didn't even spell it right!

Fifi · 01-11-13, 07:45 PM

Quote:

Should I get used to the broken and horrid vanilla before I tinker with it, or should I start modding it the moment the install finishes?

When i started with SH5, i didn't even tried the broken vanilla game, and i don't regret

If i was you, with fresh install and game updated to V1.2, i would start in first step patching SH5 with TDW generic patcher.
To me, it's a must!
Following Trevally very good step by step tutorial http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=197960 it's quite easy to get rid of stock bugs + new cool features.
After, you get a Generic Patcher folder that you will use as a mod (always activated in first place)

Then, or you use SH5 only with the Generic Patcher mod, or you add some more mods to adjust/correct SH5 to your liking...

I would recomand the FX update + New Uis 7.1 interface + IRAI as essentials for a start!
But there are so many awesome mods around here, it's hard to know what you would like!
And also depending on your PC abilities...

Stargazer · 01-12-13, 06:57 AM

Many thanks, Fifi.

I'll try and get my head around how some of these mods apply. Some of them look a little different than what I'm used to. I've already got the 13 (or is it 14?) mods out of the basic beginner mod list which I believe already includes the IRAI and FX.

However, I don't think the generic patcher was there. Having checked the link you gave me, it looks as though I saw a release thread for it and bookmarked it for future reference just in case.

Given that this seems to not be in the recommended noob list, would you still suggest putting this in first before all the others or to do it last so that it takes precedence over the ones currently lined up to go in?

The only reason I ask is because, I'm currently going through a rocky spell at the moment, my judgement is a bit haywire and I'm trying to find new stuff to keep my mind ticking over while I wait for my meds to kick in. But if I mess this up and get CTD's, I'll just shelve the entire thing and it could be a while before I get my act together and try all this again by which time I'd have forgotten I asked these questions in the first place.

Many thanks,

Rob.

GT182 · 01-12-13, 12:41 PM

Rob, make a couple of copies of SH5 in the Ubisoft folder. That will save you reinstall time.

Don't be afraid to ask as we'll all give you a hand at getting it running. CTDs are only a minor setback. Most of us have that problem from time to time. I'm only on my 11th or 12th resetting up SH5. It's a pain but not as hard as it seems. Correct mod install order is the key. Sober's list and install order is your best help. Look here.... http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=192374

Stargazer · 01-12-13, 02:01 PM

Game arrived earlier than expected...

I had a quick look at the UI in the unmodded version. I thanked the universe for modders, in all the mods suggested in the afore-linked beginners thread and then bricked it completely.

I have no idea what the hell is going on.

Please, please I beg of you, tell me it's possible to make 5 appear like a clone of 4... key-commands, mouse controls, toolbars and ui...

So far as I can tell, the developers of 5 said, "Hey, 4 was pretty bloody good. Let's start over and piss everybody off!".

Eurgh!

Fifi · 01-12-13, 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stargazer

Please, please I beg of you, tell me it's possible to make 5 appear like a clone of 4... key-commands, mouse controls, toolbars and ui...

Not really a clone of 4, but pretty close with the New UIs TDC by TDW...
Not sure a complete noob could adjust it, but this new interface is completly customizable with all the dials of SH4 (even SH3)
It's here: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=166093

Stargazer · 01-12-13, 05:22 PM

Strange... I already have that installed.

Or at least I presume I do since I downloaded it and added it via the JSGME. If I recall correctly, it was one that came with about a thousand sub-folders and the release thread makes War and Peace look like a pamphlet.

I've tried to take it in as best I can but it would appear that opening the UI config tool is pointless as it comes up blank.

At least I only paid £5 for this... Am wondering if I should have just been grateful with SH4.

GT182 · 01-13-13, 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stargazer

So far as I can tell, the developers of 5 said, "Hey, 4 was pretty bloody good. Let's start over and piss everybody off!".

LOL... That's the same assumption we all agree upon. Whether they did it intentionally who knows, but SH5 was still released broken.

01-12-13, 12:41 PM	#4
GT182 Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2005 Location: New Castle of Delaware Posts: 3,231 Downloads: 658 Uploads: 0	Rob, make a couple of copies of SH5 in the Ubisoft folder. That will save you reinstall time. Don't be afraid to ask as we'll all give you a hand at getting it running. CTDs are only a minor setback. Most of us have that problem from time to time. I'm only on my 11th or 12th resetting up SH5. It's a pain but not as hard as it seems. Correct mod install order is the key. Sober's list and install order is your best help. Look here.... http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=192374 __________________ Gary No Borders, No Language, No Culture =s No Country I'm a Deplorable, and proud of it.

01-11-13, 04:18 PM	#1
Stargazer A-ganger Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 76 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	Bum!... I didn't even spell it right!

01-12-13, 06:57 AM	#3
Stargazer A-ganger Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 76 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	Many thanks, Fifi. I'll try and get my head around how some of these mods apply. Some of them look a little different than what I'm used to. I've already got the 13 (or is it 14?) mods out of the basic beginner mod list which I believe already includes the IRAI and FX. However, I don't think the generic patcher was there. Having checked the link you gave me, it looks as though I saw a release thread for it and bookmarked it for future reference just in case. Given that this seems to not be in the recommended noob list, would you still suggest putting this in first before all the others or to do it last so that it takes precedence over the ones currently lined up to go in? The only reason I ask is because, I'm currently going through a rocky spell at the moment, my judgement is a bit haywire and I'm trying to find new stuff to keep my mind ticking over while I wait for my meds to kick in. But if I mess this up and get CTD's, I'll just shelve the entire thing and it could be a while before I get my act together and try all this again by which time I'd have forgotten I asked these questions in the first place. Many thanks, Rob.

01-12-13, 02:01 PM	#5
Stargazer A-ganger Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 76 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	Game arrived earlier than expected... I had a quick look at the UI in the unmodded version. I thanked the universe for modders, in all the mods suggested in the afore-linked beginners thread and then bricked it completely. I have no idea what the hell is going on. Please, please I beg of you, tell me it's possible to make 5 appear like a clone of 4... key-commands, mouse controls, toolbars and ui... So far as I can tell, the developers of 5 said, "Hey, 4 was pretty bloody good. Let's start over and piss everybody off!". Eurgh!

01-12-13, 05:22 PM	#7
Stargazer A-ganger Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 76 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	Strange... I already have that installed. Or at least I presume I do since I downloaded it and added it via the JSGME. If I recall correctly, it was one that came with about a thousand sub-folders and the release thread makes War and Peace look like a pamphlet. I've tried to take it in as best I can but it would appear that opening the UI config tool is pointless as it comes up blank. At least I only paid £5 for this... Am wondering if I should have just been grateful with SH4.