[WIP] Historical Guns Specs

[volodya61]

Originally Posted by gap

Under this circumstance, it will be difficult to test each Flak gun. Any suggestion?

Maybe Trevally can help? ME2 is his tool

Originally Posted by gap

Aim with the C/30 is totally out of sight even at higher crew rankings. This gun constantly aims under its target by several degrees. I wonder what is wrong with it

The same thing often happened when I did the tests in the campaign with C38-twin..

Originally Posted by volodya61

For some reasons a gunner shoots often below or above the target and it doesn't look like a preemptive shots..
Although the accuracy of the shots in both tests was good but most shots off target

[gap]

Originally Posted by volodya61

Maybe Trevally can help? ME2 is his tool

I hope so

Originally Posted by volodya61

The same thing often happened when I did the tests in the campaign with C38-twin..

Yes, but you told me that it occasionally hit the target. For what I've seen, even with elite crew rating, the C/30 is sistematically aiming under its target. During my tests it didn't score a single hit, and I think your tests in the same mission confirm it.

[Trevally.]

I would suggest that you test your missions in the campaign as this will give you full control over what you are testing.

So you need to add your mission as a new layer in a late campaign. This way you can use trigger event spawning to add units etc. (these events do not work in a single player mission)
When you start a campaign (silentotto) you can then kit out your boat with any equipment you want from the dock.

Edit the mission list so that your new layer is the only mission in the campaign (can be done by date) and then when you ask the kmo for a mission - you will get the one you are testing.

This will mean you have to travel to your test area each time (or save for rerun test with same equip), but you can make the test area close to your port.

[volodya61]

Originally Posted by gap

During my tests it didn't score a single hit, and I think your tests in the same mission confirm it.

Seems like a C/30 is initially broken flak-gun..

Originally Posted by Trevally.

I would suggest that you test your missions in the campaign as this will give you full control over what you are testing.

It's hard to me.. I'm still not able to make a single mission.. too lazy to figure out how ME2 work..

[gap]

Originally Posted by volodya61

Seems like a C/30 is initially broken flak-gun..

After all, I think our first test will be about the trav / elev tolerance factors. I wan to see if they fix this damn gun

Originally Posted by Trevally.

I would suggest that you test your missions in the campaign as this will give you full control over what you are testing.

Originally Posted by volodya61

It's hard to me.. I'm still not able to make a single mission.. too lazy to figure out how ME2 work..

but I promise one day I will put myself at it. How much do you charge for private classes, Trevally?

[volodya61]

Originally Posted by gap

After all, I think our first test will be about the trav / elev tolerance factors. I wan to see if they fix this damn gun

If I set trav/elev tolerance values to 1, will this reduce error? What do you think?

Originally Posted by gap

How much do you charge for private classes, Trevally?

really Private classes

[Trevally.]

I can do it for you - send me your mission and let me know what date you want it to take place

[Trevally.]

Don't mind Helga - she comes in to clean the board for me.

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Originally Posted by volodya61

If I set trav/elev tolerance values to 1, will this reduce error? What do you think?

I have just set it to 0 (you know:I like to overdo), and I think I've discovered something new: the gun was following its target, but held fire, as if it was looking for a perfect aim before firing.

as their name is suggesting, the two tolerance factors are probably the angular deviation from the ideal trajectory to the target, at which the AI will think that its aim is good enough to start firing... I will carry one some more testing after dinner

Originally Posted by Trevally.

I can do it for you - send me your mission and let me know what date you want it to take place

Whatever date. I doesn't matter for me. What I would like, is having a mission for each Flak gun available as boat upgrade, and our U-boat being equipped with just one of them in each mission...

Originally Posted by Trevally.

Don't mind Helga - she comes in to clean the board for me.

a fellow subsim member, I suppose