[WIP] Historical Guns Specs - Page 12

gap · 01-10-13, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by volodya61

It's OK..
I can forget or confuse anything, but with your instructions that's not possible..

OK.. see you tomorrow..

Give me a moment: since you are still awake and lively, I will adjust the mission right now, so to keep you busy

gap · 01-10-13, 08:21 PM

Sorry, it is taking longer than expected... I've yet to find the right combination of date and U-boat model

You can try one of the airplane missions included in IRAI and in Fx updates, if you want. I've to go now, see ya tomorrow

GT182 · 01-10-13, 10:36 PM

Guys, don't you have to train your gunners in stock SH5... just like we did in SHIII? Once trained well enough they'll knock those Tommies out of the air.

THE_MASK · 01-10-13, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by GT182

Guys, don't you have to train your gunners in stock SH5... just like we did in SHIII? Once trained well enough they'll knock those Tommies out of the air.

If that was the case then maybe there should be some anti aircraft training in the OH2 campaign . The first mission could be to shoot down 10 planes in a certain area before heading to the Baltic mission . 10 biplanes or something .

GT182 · 01-10-13, 11:42 PM

If I'm on the right track Sober, then what you say would be a good idea.

THE_MASK · 01-11-13, 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by GT182

If I'm on the right track Sober, then what you say would be a good idea.

maybe its something left over from Sh3/4 . Maybe someone can look at the SH4 files but maybe a hardcoded thing .

volodya61 · 01-11-13, 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by gap

Give me a moment: since you are still awake and lively, I will adjust the mission right now, so to keep you busy

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Originally Posted by gap

Sorry, it is taking longer than expected... I've yet to find the right combination of date and U-boat model

any news?

gap · 01-11-13, 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by volodya61

any news?

I was busy this morning. I will work on it just after lunch

volodya61 · 01-11-13, 07:40 AM

I just asked

Take your time

gap · 01-11-13, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by volodya61

I just asked

Take your time

Okay, I am again on it

gap · 01-11-13, 11:19 AM

mmm... I heven't managed yet to bring the C/38 twin in our custom mission...

I have tried changing mission date, tweaking Flak gun's availability dates in UPCDataGE, modifying boat's standard Flaks in their eqp file, but still nothing, depending on mission date and selected U-boat, I was given either the usual single C/30 or a full battery of two 37 mm guns and one FlakVierling

Under this circumstance, it will be difficult to test each Flak gun. Any suggestion?

On a side note, when I tested (by mistake) the 37 mm / vierling guns, they hit the Hurricane at the first shot. Aim with the C/30 is totally out of sight even at higher crew rankings. This gun costantly aims under its target by several degrees. I wonder what is wrong with it

volodya61 · 01-11-13, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by gap

Under this circumstance, it will be difficult to test each Flak gun. Any suggestion?

Maybe Trevally can help? ME2 is his tool

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Originally Posted by gap

Aim with the C/30 is totally out of sight even at higher crew rankings. This gun constantly aims under its target by several degrees. I wonder what is wrong with it

The same thing often happened when I did the tests in the campaign with C38-twin..

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Originally Posted by volodya61

For some reasons a gunner shoots often below or above the target and it doesn't look like a preemptive shots..
Although the accuracy of the shots in both tests was good but most shots off target

gap · 01-11-13, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by volodya61

Maybe Trevally can help? ME2 is his tool

I hope so

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Originally Posted by volodya61

The same thing often happened when I did the tests in the campaign with C38-twin..

Yes, but you told me that it occasionally hit the target. For what I've seen, even with elite crew rating, the C/30 is sistematically aiming under its target. During my tests it didn't score a single hit, and I think your tests in the same mission confirm it.

Trevally. · 01-11-13, 12:56 PM

I would suggest that you test your missions in the campaign as this will give you full control over what you are testing.

So you need to add your mission as a new layer in a late campaign. This way you can use trigger event spawning to add units etc. (these events do not work in a single player mission)
When you start a campaign (silentotto) you can then kit out your boat with any equipment you want from the dock.

Edit the mission list so that your new layer is the only mission in the campaign (can be done by date) and then when you ask the kmo for a mission - you will get the one you are testing.

This will mean you have to travel to your test area each time (or save for rerun test with same equip), but you can make the test area close to your port.

volodya61 · 01-11-13, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by gap

During my tests it didn't score a single hit, and I think your tests in the same mission confirm it.

Seems like a C/30 is initially broken flak-gun..

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Originally Posted by Trevally.

I would suggest that you test your missions in the campaign as this will give you full control over what you are testing.

It's hard to me.. I'm still not able to make a single mission.. too lazy to figure out how ME2 work..

01-10-13, 10:36 PM	#168
GT182 Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2005 Location: New Castle of Delaware Posts: 3,231 Downloads: 658 Uploads: 0	Guys, don't you have to train your gunners in stock SH5... just like we did in SHIII? Once trained well enough they'll knock those Tommies out of the air. __________________ Gary No Borders, No Language, No Culture =s No Country I'm a Deplorable, and proud of it.

01-10-13, 11:42 PM	#170
GT182 Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2005 Location: New Castle of Delaware Posts: 3,231 Downloads: 658 Uploads: 0	If I'm on the right track Sober, then what you say would be a good idea. __________________ Gary No Borders, No Language, No Culture =s No Country I'm a Deplorable, and proud of it.

01-11-13, 07:40 AM	#174
volodya61 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Rostov-on-Don, local time GMT+4 Posts: 3,300 Downloads: 374 Uploads: 0	I just asked Take your time __________________ . Where does human stupidity end? . *El sueño de la razón produce monstruos © - and for some people awakening will be cruel*

01-11-13, 12:56 PM	#179
Trevally. Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: AN1536 (Orkney) Posts: 5,451 Downloads: 166 Uploads: 28	I would suggest that you test your missions in the campaign as this will give you full control over what you are testing. So you need to add your mission as a new layer in a late campaign. This way you can use trigger event spawning to add units etc. (these events do not work in a single player mission) When you start a campaign (silentotto) you can then kit out your boat with any equipment you want from the dock. Edit the mission list so that your new layer is the only mission in the campaign (can be done by date) and then when you ask the kmo for a mission - you will get the one you are testing. This will mean you have to travel to your test area each time (or save for rerun test with same equip), but you can make the test area close to your port. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Trevally Mods for SH5

01-10-13, 08:21 PM	#167
gap Navy Seal Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: CJ8937 Posts: 8,215 Downloads: 793 Uploads: 10	Sorry, it is taking longer than expected... I've yet to find the right combination of date and U-boat model You can try one of the airplane missions included in IRAI and in Fx updates, if you want. I've to go now, see ya tomorrow

01-11-13, 11:19 AM	#176
gap Navy Seal Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: CJ8937 Posts: 8,215 Downloads: 793 Uploads: 10	mmm... I heven't managed yet to bring the C/38 twin in our custom mission... I have tried changing mission date, tweaking Flak gun's availability dates in UPCDataGE, modifying boat's standard Flaks in their eqp file, but still nothing, depending on mission date and selected U-boat, I was given either the usual single C/30 or a full battery of two 37 mm guns and one FlakVierling Under this circumstance, it will be difficult to test each Flak gun. Any suggestion? On a side note, when I tested (by mistake) the 37 mm / vierling guns, they hit the Hurricane at the first shot. Aim with the C/30 is totally out of sight even at higher crew rankings. This gun costantly aims under its target by several degrees. I wonder what is wrong with it