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28 | 54.90% |
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National Guard? State run for the most part. I understand your point, but independant Paramilitary groups will never be sanctioned in modern America. We are a slight step behind China or Russia in oppressiveness, just look at what we lost in the Patriot act. I still have faith in us though, I still have faith in the people.
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There's this thing called Google. A 2 second search produces this:
http://thechart.blogs.cnn.com/2010/1...ns-aggressive/
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Video games are freaking evil.
I played the campaign in Call of Duty Black ops 2, and it forced me to stick a machete into the side of a mans face. I then got on the USS Barack Obama, as a staging point to take out Raul Menendez. I am a freedom fighter! Rata-tat-tat, M60 IN YOUR FACES YOU SCUM! Yes I do have problems.
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The Democrats don't want to loose Congress and if they identify themselves too closely with their anti-gun element they are risking a lot in 2014.
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This "google" you speak of also points to a mass of contrary research, some even suggesting that video games, among other things, have been linked to reductions in violence in the real world.
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I said that no one needs an automatic ANYTHING. Not a glock 19, not an automatic assault rifle. Not anything. I was in favor of banning automatic assault rifles. Not, as you claim, a semi-automatic AR-15 that isn't capable of fully automatic fire. In another related thread i mentioned my uncle owning an AK-47 only capable of semi-automatic fire and the fact that my uncle only buys ten round clips. It's firing rifle rounds, semi-automatic, ten round clip, therefore it is not an assault rifle but rather a rifle. And there are legitimate reasons for having a semi-automatic rifle. Diddo with handguns. I was never for banning those. But none for automatic weapons. Absolutely no reason. In addition, if I am the one brainwashed by "liberal media" then i could just as EASILY accuse you the the EXACT same thing, given that you were not only in the military (thank you for your service) and you are a NRA member. I wasn't indoctrinated into a damned thing. I grew up and made my own decisions. I didn't go on what i saw on the news, i didn't go on what i had simpyl heard. I make my own logical decisions because i'm not like some of my peers, who DO get sucked into lies. Hell, most americans were grown up to believe that America is the greatest country on earth and that what few wrongs it's done it's made up for plenty in good. That of course is false. Whether you think a country is the greatest is opinion (not saying that my own country is bad, but i certainly don't put it on a pedestal and worship it) and the U.S has committed a great deal of injustices and massacres. The middle east has had a ridiculous amount of civilian casualties, and for what? Trying to install democracy in the middle east? That place is going to fall apart the second we leave and the trillions spent there and the thousands of dead will be wasted on absolutely nothing. Yet so many people still think it's necessary to further our time there. now THAT'S propaganda. I also see you didn't mention FOX NEWS, one of the most propagandistic filth-spewing channels on T.V. MSNBC has a few of their own ultra-liberals (i hate al sharpton and chris matthews), but Fox news is just mind-numbingly biased. In addition, the battle of athens was 66 years ago. That sort of thing wouldn't stand to pass at ALL today. Not with the communication and information age we live in today. If there was that kind of brutality it would just as quickly come to an end. For instance, if Rodney King had been assaulted in 1946 you think people wouldve cared, or even heard about it? The reason it caused so much anger is because we had both recordings of it happening and a progressive attitude that finally accepted blacks as full, honored, equal citizens. Having a 200 year old stonewall interpretation of an amendment written when both severe government instability and the fact we had no standing army were very real dangers, is ridiculous. There's no good reason to have automatic weapons. Absolutely zero. If you need an automatic weapon to hunt or defend yourself then you really shouldn't be owning a gun. Learn how to use semi-automatics to their full extent. Automatic weapons are both useless for responsible gun owners and perfect for those who wish to kill wide swaths of people. Furthermore, i explained how i knew it wasn't going to stop, necessarily, massacres, but they sure as hell help. And, August, free speech never killed anyone. Free speech never shot the millions of now dead or injured americans that have faced gun violence. I'd say the 2nd amendment is in need of WAY more reform than the 1st. And, to say this for the hundredth time, i was never in favor of taking guns away entirely. I was never for taking rifles or pistols. Automatic weapons are different. Automatic weapons have NO purpose but to kill large groups of people. And in both self defense and hunting, there is no use for them.
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But youre ready to rag on violent video games as a leading perpetrator? What? Violent video games have never killed anyone. Ever think that the psycho plays violent video games so much because he's psycho, instead of "playing video games so often turn an ordinary child into a psycho?" Video games never killed anyone. Assault rifles have killed millions. Your analogy to banning assault rifles relates to banning violent games is simply a poor analogy. People use games and movies to entertain themselves. Normal human beings can very well distinguish pixelated gore and real death perfectly. Only psychos do not make this comparison. Assault weapons have only one purpose: to kill many people in VERY short amounts of time. Automatic weapons have no practical use in home defense nor hunting. It does allow psychos to get a hold of them, though. So why do we allow them? If you need to arm yourself, get a semi-automatic rifle or a pistol. You still have the tools necessary to fully use your 2nd amendment rights.
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Been playing FPS's since Doom when I was, what, fourteen, fifteen. Still haven't brutally murdered anyone.
That's probably my upbringing more than it is anything else though, honestly can't speak for the youth of today, since I'm the wrong side of that barrier now. But I think that considering violent movies have been around for some time now, as have movies that glorify war and violence, and video games are extrapolations of films in a manner that they are (some more than others) interactive film events. Besides, such games are sold worldwide, and the youngest perpetuater of a massacre (defined by myself as more than five people shot in a go) was a 27 year old, and that was in 1987, long before the likes of Call of Duty. At first the media tried to blame Rambo, but there was no evidence to prove that Ryan even had a VCR, as Stallone put it: Quote:
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As for your implication that I want to "destroy the first amendment" nothing could be farther from the truth. I only use it as an example of how easy it is to rationalize our way out of essential liberties. I like my violent movies and video games too, but I'm a 53 year old man who doesn't have the inclination or time to become totally absorbed by it like a kid will. I see nothing wrong with limiting under 18 access to them though. No way should the graphic violence like what is in Batman the Dark Knight for example be considered a PG-13 rated movie.
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Oh, I don't disagree entirely about having some sensible restrictions. I am playing devil's advocate to an extent. More than anything though, I believe that these restrictions need to be less about banning and more about educating parents rationally and in a manner that is not hysterical.
And I can answer your first question about research funding very reliably: practically none at all. By virtue of my work, I am connected to the Games Research Institute at University of Waterloo, the biggest research group of this type in Canada. While none of our projects look at video games violence at the moment, I can tell you that funding for social studies on games from game companies is basically non-existent. This is certainly the case all over North America at least. The entertainment industry is not interested in funding this type of research at all, and has never been. And yet there are some pretty reliable studies out there. I, too, was playing Duke Nukem from age 12 and am probably the least violent person I know. And that is despite growing up in an incredibly violent environment around me. My parents, however, had made far more important choices than simply games in regard to my education, and in the end, it all worked out. That's where the responsibility really needs to be. |
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But I tell you, CoD just disturbs me, so I'm never going to join the army.
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