Putin has finally, completely lost it

[Cybermat47]

Originally Posted by TarJak

Why do your remember him well?

No.

But the most important thing he did was dissolve the USSR, while all Putin has done is throw people in jail for not letting him buy their companies and this.

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by Cybermat47

No.

But the most important thing he did was dissolve the USSR, while all Putin has done is throw people in jail for not letting him buy their companies and this.

You know he didn't disolve the USSR willingly, right? I mean, the dissolusion was largely due to the anti-Gorbachev coup attempt in 1991. He didn't tear the wall down so much as the "wall" fell apart.

[Cybermat47]

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

You know he didn't disolve the USSR willingly, right? I mean, the dissolusion was largely due to the anti-Gorbachev coup attempt in 1991. He didn't tear the wall down so much as the "wall" fell apart.

Meh, at least he was crap/sensible enough to let it work.

[TarJak]

Ask your History teacher about it. You might learn something new.

[Cybermat47]

Originally Posted by TarJak

You might learn something new.

I'm always learning something new

[CaptainMattJ.]

Originally Posted by TarJak

Ask your History teacher about it. You might learn something new.

To be fair, the western powers still aren't coming to terms of what communist russia was REALLY like in the cold war (Stalin's regime was the darkest days of the USSR for the average russian, im talknig about the cold war). What they try to teach me in school is that communist russia was a deplorable highlyoppressive place.

It wasn't all that great, but it's not the demon it's made out to be. Talking to the people who actually lived through it in Russia, i can say that the majority of the population wasn't abused or totally oppressed. Free education, Free healthcare, rights (yes they enjoyed some rights in soviet russia). Granted the sattelite countries were mistreated and the few who really spoke out against the USSR during the cold war era were arrested, but the majority of the population had little to complain about.

So the history books (and some teachers) are still under the impression that cold-war soviet russia was the greatest evil there ever was. When, in fact, cold war america wasn't that fantastic a time either. I mean look at Joseph McCarthy, or the red hysteria of the time.

So in reality it just wasn't a very good time at all. Based on the now many russians who lived through or whose parents lived through the cold war, they still claim that it wasn't nearly the demon that peopel make it out to be. And it wasn't. Now, back when Stalin was still in power, that's an entirely different matter. THAT was, in terms of death toll, even worse than Hitler's regime. But after Stalin things improved dramatically in Soviet Russia for the average person, according to first hand accounts.

[Betonov]

Originally Posted by CaptainMattJ.

It wasn't all that great, but it's not the demon it's made out to be. Talking to the people who actually lived through it in Russia, i can say that the majority of the population wasn't abused or totally oppressed. Free education, Free healthcare, rights (yes they enjoyed some rights in soviet russia).

Same with Yugoslavia.

[geetrue]

Putin has finally, completely lost it

it’s just so interesting that this even deserves it’s own thread

The Berlin wall did not come down over night …

The Berlin wall did not come down without God hearing the prayers of many years before it fell.

This is only seed thought … not an attempt to turn the subject into Russia being an evil empire or anything like that.

Just good plain seed thoughts.

http://www.unsolvedmysteries.com/usm527355.html?t=Conspiracy

The Truth About Korean Airlines Flight 007

On September 1st, 1983, Korean Air Lines Flight 007 was on its way to Seoul, South Korea, when it strayed into Soviet Air Space. A VVS--Soviet Air Force--SU-15 was scrambled up, and shot down the airliner, killing all 269 people

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Korean Air Lines Flight 007
Total Persons on Board:269 passengers and crew, including US Congressman Lawrence McDonald.

http://www.rescue007.org/kal_007_diver_gives_interview.htm
Russian deep sea diver Vadim Kondrabaev, one of the civilian divers brought to explore the wreckage of KAL 007 in 1983 gave an interview to the Russian magazine Itogi published on October 1, 2000. It can be read in English here. This interview is significant in supporting a number of points made in the book Rescue 007. Kondrabaev is one of three divers referenced on page 89 in a quote from the Izvestia series about KAL 007.

He points out that after he and the other civilian divers were brought to Sakhalin on September 10, 1983, they were kept there until "the end of September." "...They literally forgot about us for several days." When they did get to the wreckage, they were surprised to find neither bodies nor luggage. "We worked beneath the water almost a month for 5 hours a day and didn't find one suitcase, not even a handle from them." He states that it was difficult to verify that what they were finding was more than rubbish and parts deliberately strewn around. He did retrieve a small Bible which he found in the pocket of a raincoat and kept that along with a few other souvenirs.

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1933194,00.html
On the night of Nov. 9, 1989, an East German official held a press conference to announce new government travel policies but inadvertently announced that crossings to the West would be opened "without delay."

Two years earlier (note:1987 was four years after KAL 007) , Reagan had addressed a crowd of some 20,000 near Berlin's Brandenburg Gate and challenged Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev to tear down the Wall.


As early as 1967, while still governor of California, Reagan said the U.S. should have knocked down the barbed wire separating East and West Berlin the moment the communists put it up

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What does all of this have to do with the Berlin wall coming down?

Simply this that God doesn’t do anything without prayer.

Do you know who was on the KAL 007 flight?

http://www.conservapedia.com/Korean_Airlines_Flight_007

The most prominent passenger on KAL 007 was a United States Congressman from Georgia, Democrat Larry McDonald, a fiery anti-communist who was recently made the president of the John Birch Society, an organization dedicated to exposing the truth of communism and the Soviet Union. The theory goes was that the Soviets had wanted to silence McDonald, and being aware of his presence on the flight (he was on his way to Seoul for the 30th year anniversary of the U.S./South Korean Mutual Defense Treaty) sent the fighters aloft; it was sheer luck that the plane had drifted into Soviet airspace. About fifteen minutes behind was another flight, KAL 015, carrying to the anniversary celebration senators Jesse Helms (R-North Carolina), Steve Symms (R-Idaho), and Congressman Caroll Hubbard (D-Kentucky), all anti-communist like McDonald and also attending the ceremony in Seoul.

Yes, this is just a theory, but it is no theroy that God hears the prayers of his servants.

The theory specified that the Soviets knew of McDonald's activities and wished to silence him, despite the presence of several more tempting targets on the other flight.
There is no known evidence that the Soviets were even aware that McDonald was on the plane at all. They would find out after the news media broke the story on September 1.

http://www.conservapedia.com/Korean_Airlines_Flight_007
One thing Helms could not forget and would speak of often, and mention in his letter to Boris Yeltsin, was a meeting at Anchorage airport while both KAL 007 and KAL 015 were taking on fuel for the next leg of the trip, a meeting that he had with two child passengers, Noel Anne Grenfell, aged 5, and her sister Stacy Marie, aged 3 [25].
"I’ll never forget that night when that plane was just beside ours at Anchorage airport with two little girls and their parents. I taught them, among other things, to say I love you in deaf language, and the last thing they did when they turned the corner was stick up their little hands and tell me they loved me. I’ll never forget that, and I know you won’t."

Back to the threads OP … I believe that Putin did the right thing. These are not normal children. They are very naughty, little liars and thieves with bad habits that try the patience of any parent. They have many metal problems.

I agree with Neon Samurai ... Putin did a lot of parents in America a favor

Putin has finally, completely lost it

Did he ever have it?

[CCIP]

You want to hear someone who really lost it by the way? Here is a recent speech by a Russian parliamentarian on the subject of banning adoptions of Russian children by the USA...

The USA, before the eyes of the whole world, are instigating one slaughter after another. This is how the interests of the golden billion are resolved but, it seems, wars require human material. In the USA, a national body responsible for foreign adoption was thus created. Simultaneous to that, assistance funds were launched to find lobbyists in other countries to aid in the adoption and delivery of children. This is the objective reality of today. And thus the flow of children to America from under-developed countries began, including from Russia. 60,000 orphans were taken out of the country. And even if 1/10th of these children will be snuffed out and used for transplantation organs or for sexual pleasure, there will still be over 50,000 left to recruit into the military for war - even war with Russia.

(-Svetlana Goryacheva, MP)

MY POOR BRAIN

[Takeda Shingen]

Oh crap, they're on to us. Quick, everyone hide the organ harvesting equipment!