Putin has finally, completely lost it

soopaman2 · 12-20-12, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

Democracy is doing what you're told. Got it.

There are some house of representative members in America who need to be told that. *cough Cantor and Boehner*

Not like we are any cleaner, just more direct.

Putin is a passive aggressive coward.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passive...ssive_behavior

If the shoe fits...If it quacks like a duck...etc

Jimbuna · 12-20-12, 07:22 PM

But in his defence, his office have just released tis to the international press

Skybird · 12-20-12, 08:43 PM

It's tit for tat.

For the Russian side, it is a diplomatic retaliation for an American law that the Russians see as a sanctionising against Russian officials that are claimed by the US to have commited human rights violations. The socalled Magnitsky Act is poisening bilateral relations since longer time now. The law is internationally disputed indeed.

I don't comment. I just explain the background. A has pushed B. Now B pushes A back.

August · 12-20-12, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

I don't comment. I just explain the background. A has pushed B. Now B pushes A back.

But B seems to be pushing back by hurting his own country and his own countries image. What's next? He going to retaliate for our lack of respect by crapping on his own flag?

Oberon · 12-20-12, 09:30 PM

I don't think Putin really cares about how the rest of the world sees Russia, he's got enough guns and enough allies to not be particularly bothered about that, and his main rival is the world leader which means that they're automatically polarising the world for and against them, so Putin can just sit back and let potential allies fall into his lap if he wants to.

What Putin cares about is how his people see him, particularly the hardliners and the old favourites, military, intelligence, etc, and this tit for tat is a response to a small amount of Russian children being abused by American families. It's a simple procedure, you get the state press to make a big thing of it, and neglect to mention that more Russian children are abused by Russian adoptive parents than American ones, then when the people are sufficiently engaged by it, you introduce a law to 'fix' it, and reap the small popularity boost amongst those who brought the story hook, line and sinker. In the cities, that will be pretty much no-one, but out in the wilds where there are those who still miss Stalin, then you'll see a different figure.

Putin is a shrewd person, he has definitely not 'lost' it.

Cybermat47 · 12-20-12, 10:08 PM

I want Gorbachev back

TarJak · 12-20-12, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Cybermat47

I want Gorbachev back

Why do your remember him well?

CCIP · 12-20-12, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Oberon

I don't think Putin really cares about how the rest of the world sees Russia, he's got enough guns and enough allies to not be particularly bothered about that, and his main rival is the world leader which means that they're automatically polarising the world for and against them, so Putin can just sit back and let potential allies fall into his lap if he wants to.

What Putin cares about is how his people see him, particularly the hardliners and the old favourites, military, intelligence, etc, and this tit for tat is a response to a small amount of Russian children being abused by American families. It's a simple procedure, you get the state press to make a big thing of it, and neglect to mention that more Russian children are abused by Russian adoptive parents than American ones, then when the people are sufficiently engaged by it, you introduce a law to 'fix' it, and reap the small popularity boost amongst those who brought the story hook, line and sinker. In the cities, that will be pretty much no-one, but out in the wilds where there are those who still miss Stalin, then you'll see a different figure.

Putin is a shrewd person, he has definitely not 'lost' it.

Exactly. As I keep saying in threads of this type, you guys are mistaking the point and intention of these "shows" that Putin and his regime put on. They are not meant for you, i.e. they are not at all aimed at the West or the international community. Rather, these are purely displays meant for domestic consumption, and as such, they work.

Granted, it's easy to see how any liberally-minded Russian (of which I consider myself one) could only respond with exasperation to the way the regime treats Russian people - like children, with a lot of finger-wagging and threats of spanking. It's a crying shame. But sadly that's life in Russia for you.

Skybird · 12-21-12, 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by August

But B seems to be pushing back by hurting his own country and his own countries image. What's next? He going to retaliate for our lack of respect by crapping on his own flag?

That's how you see it. Not them. And Americans wanting to adopt children from other countries have Russia very high on their demand list, Russian children are amongst their favourites.

Personally I do not understand this craving for adopting an "exotic" child. Must be something about "exotic" indeed, like having a tropical fish or a parrot.

Skybird · 12-21-12, 06:18 AM

Oberon is on target, I think.

12-20-12, 07:22 PM	#2
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Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,637 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	It's tit for tat. For the Russian side, it is a diplomatic retaliation for an American law that the Russians see as a sanctionising against Russian officials that are claimed by the US to have commited human rights violations. The socalled Magnitsky Act is poisening bilateral relations since longer time now. The law is internationally disputed indeed. I don't comment. I just explain the background. A has pushed B. Now B pushes A back. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

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Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,637 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Oberon is on target, I think. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

12-20-12, 09:30 PM	#5
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	I don't think Putin really cares about how the rest of the world sees Russia, he's got enough guns and enough allies to not be particularly bothered about that, and his main rival is the world leader which means that they're automatically polarising the world for and against them, so Putin can just sit back and let potential allies fall into his lap if he wants to. What Putin cares about is how his people see him, particularly the hardliners and the old favourites, military, intelligence, etc, and this tit for tat is a response to a small amount of Russian children being abused by American families. It's a simple procedure, you get the state press to make a big thing of it, and neglect to mention that more Russian children are abused by Russian adoptive parents than American ones, then when the people are sufficiently engaged by it, you introduce a law to 'fix' it, and reap the small popularity boost amongst those who brought the story hook, line and sinker. In the cities, that will be pretty much no-one, but out in the wilds where there are those who still miss Stalin, then you'll see a different figure. Putin is a shrewd person, he has definitely not 'lost' it.