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Old 11-08-12, 03:32 PM   #11
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Showing a driver's license?
an instant criminal background check?
Or...A concealed carry permit card voids that....thats a gun license isn't it.
Do you get one of those by showing a driving licence or is there more to it in terms of regulations?
Regulations eh.


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Convicted felons aren't allowed to own guns. Therefore any guns in their possession are unlawful.
Same as Utah then...regulations
Plus don't forget the mentals and the underage. Not to mention places where you cannot have a gun or places you can only have a gun with written permission plus of course the regulations for buying guns out of state and the other regulations for out of state buyers.
For a place with no regulation "period" they seem to have a hell of a lot of statutes regulating firearms in the State don't they.


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You're playing games again.
You shouldn't have tried an absolute when it wasn't valid.
You should have gone with "Vermont has fairly liberal gun laws in comparison with other states"...but that lacks the impact you were trying for doesn't it.

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I wasn't talking about that link.
I was, after all it was the link you posted to back up the claim wasn't it.

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I was talking about people I have talked to, conferences I've attended, people I've seen on TV. It's real.
Which comes back to the same question, do they have more or less power than the doctor from Florida who has no power?

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But the quote is true: If "all" guns were to be outlaws then only outlaws would have guns. Prevarication aside, is that concept true or not?
A concept built on a false premise cannot be true.

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The man I quoted (the founder of HCI, not whoever it is that you keep refering to) said that his stated goal was to eventually outlaw all handguns. You'll again point to "with a few exceptions". Their exceptions are always heavily licensed and regulated, "approved" special people, not any normal citizen.
Exceptions are exceptions, all is all, you cannot have both.

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No, they can't. If you are in possession of an illegal substance, you are by definition a criminal, and therefore outside the law.
Oh dear
Think how many well qualified upstanding pillars of the community you have just called criminals because of their proffession.
Some opiates are illegal, but there are a lot of exceptions.

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You keep playing games. Do you have anything real to discuss?
Of course, try the first post I put in this topic.
I have asked several times for you to provide actual examples of real bans yet each time you came up short.
So take that first post and find a single example from any period from before or after the ink was dry on the 2nd when there havn't been regulations applying terms and conditions to possesion of firearms.
Because if you have never actually had something how can it somehow be taken away?
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