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Old 11-06-12, 05:31 PM   #16
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But the question is...should these two be facing a possible 2 years jail term?

A good question

My answer is NO!
What they need, is help, maybe some type of psychological help

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Old 11-06-12, 05:43 PM   #17
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I'm against this one, I don't see anything good coming from every allowing incest. Fact is, it's already a major problem with fathers abusing daughters, make it legal for adults, I think it sends a wrong message to children suffering abuse. I see it giving too much excuse for those that want to abuse others, regardless of the age. Just compare it to alcohol, how many parents give minors alcohol.
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Old 11-06-12, 05:52 PM   #18
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I personally dislike incest. Its in my view morally wrong.

However what to do when couple doesn't know they are family in start of their relationship? I recall news reports from Germany where brother and sister who grew away from each other married and at that point learned that. Should authorities go and tell that their love is illegal? That they are not allowed to have children?
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Old 11-06-12, 05:54 PM   #19
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But, a father-daughter(18+), Mother-son(18+) or a Brother-sister(18+) relationship is in my mind so wrong. I can't make a long speech why I think so. I just feel it's wrong.
So do I, but should what you or I feel is wrong dictate law to everyone else?
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So do I, but should what you or I feel is wrong dictate law to everyone else?
Same argument concerning religion for centuries.
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Same argument concerning religion for centuries.
I don't understand.
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Old 11-06-12, 06:28 PM   #22
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So do I, but should what you or I feel is wrong dictate law to everyone else?
Now you made me think

It's a kind of a two way answer to that

1. As an ordinary private person
I'm very liberal when it comes to many things even sex between to adult, but sex in the family...no

1 If I was a politician I would have the same attitude as above and I would vote no if such a bill came up.

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Old 11-06-12, 06:31 PM   #23
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from certain degrees of genetic nearness (? closeness? familiarity? similarity?) on, the probability of offsprings having genetic malfunctions are rocketing upwards, even multiply. Society has an interest in preventing this, because it is society paying the price for it. So if an incest couple by its selfishness and egoism has "handicapped" children - who pays the bill for caring for the children when they are grown up and their parents are dead? Well, who pays the wellfare system and the state? Right.

There is a reason why in most culture incest is tabooized since every long time. And it is not just religious dogmas' reasons. It simply is common sense based on bad experience.

Campaigning for ending "father and mother", propagating homo and lesbian marriage, denying psychological differences between boys and girls, demanding children being taken away from their parents at the age of as low as 1 year and giving them to Kindergardens (although we know for empirically proven certainty that this does damage to the psychic and immunologic developement of little children) , insisting that woman get equal numerical representation in all jobs no matter whether they want that or not, quotas for women in employment, etc etc - all this is part of the gender ideology that is on crusade in the whole Western world and has become the fundament of EU policies and national policies since the conference at Bejing at the very latest. Its a project of brainwashing and socially re-engineering of nothing less than 800 million people int he Western world. The very root of it has been a meanwhile terribly misunderstood and perverted idea of feminist movement.

I am extremely unforgivable over this gender movement madness. I rate it as one of the biggest crimes against mankind. It equals the crime of Chinese reeducation camps and Soviet/Eastern attempts to breed and train the "socialist homo sapiens." The damage it does, can hardly be overestimated if it is allowed to go on like it did in the past 15 years.
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Old 11-07-12, 02:30 AM   #24
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well I didn't expect quite such a pile of ballderdash from Sky, its amazng how many unrelated falsehoods can be fitted into a rant about incest.
Honestly, he should get a job with the daily mail
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So do I, but should what you or I feel is wrong dictate law to everyone else?
This.

As long as the couple are consenting adults and takes steps to prevent pregnancy then I say it shouldn't be an issue. Legalizing it doesn't mean you have to start shagging your family members, after all.
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