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mapuc 11-06-12 02:33 PM

This made me sick in my stomach
 
And most of the danish people who even got get their coffee in the wrong throat and sick in their stomach

I have used Google Translate

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The Unity List(=Enhedslisten a radical leftwing party) will make sex between siblings legally an a a professor of law, supports the proposal

Today intercourse between two siblings punishable by imprisonment of up to two years after the Penal Code Section 210

The reason is that the risk of genetic defects is greater in babies of parents are related.

The legislation criticized, however, from several pages after information last week told the story of a CCG halvsøskendepar who anonymously told about their love affair and five month old son.

Not the government's job

Among the critics is Unity List, which according politiken.dk think that the law should be abolished.

It is not government's job to interfere in who should have children with whom. It is man's responsibility. I think it's a grotesque and old-fashioned approach to sex and family forms, "says spokesman Pernille Skipper (EL) to politiken.dk.

She refers to the gap in that you never would prohibit such as smokers or people with Down Syndrome in having children, although this too can cause dangerous diseases

Even law professor Vagn Greve from Copenhagen Business School, which his research has dealt with the topic, see no logic in the ban.

He takes a particular baffled by that 5-8 per cent., which according to research is the increased risk of congenital genetic defects in children of half siblings parents, must be an argument for the law.

"In recent times, no one wanted to criminalize people with a genetic defect begets children, although there is a 50 percent risk that the defect continued. When you want to criminalize an increase from 5 to 8 percent - without wanting to criminalize an increase of 50 percent - misses the logic, "he says to Information
:nope::nope::nope:

I know that some of our politicians haven't got, what we called, a brain, but...


Markus

CCIP 11-06-12 02:39 PM

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It is not government's job to interfere in who should have children with whom.
I agree.

Tribesman 11-06-12 03:16 PM

This article has been updated on the 11th nov. to clarify that the politicians are not and have not suggested making incest legal....so much for keep it in the family then.

Sailor Steve 11-06-12 03:17 PM

But...but...if we don't regulate everything we could have chaos! Anarchy! People not like me!

AVGWarhawk 11-06-12 04:09 PM

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so much for keep it in the family then.
:rotfl2:



The folks in WV were hoping.....



Keep It In The Family

Written by: Dan Peters

Sweet sixteen, you're a regular dream and I can see it runs in your family. 'Cuz your momma's 32 and she's just as hot as you. This kind o' thing could really drive me crazy. When I see your little sister, all I wanna do is kiss her. I hope that it's okay with you. Well, your Grandma's 47, she's a real piece of heaven. Baby, this is what I wanna do.
I want to marry your whole family and be your favorite daddy, your grandpa and your little brother too. I won't be just a sailor if I move into your trailer. I want to be the captain and the crew. I'll be the man around the house, the community spouse. Still, I'm a savin' all my best for you. 'Cuz lovin' 1 is always fun but lovin' 4 is so much more and Baby, we can keep it in the family.
- Solo -
Teenage Honey, you look like a playboy bunny. I wanna be around you everyday. Well, I'm not complainin' but it's hard behavin' when your momma's sunbathin' in the nude. Your little sister wants to tease me in her little red bikini. It's hard to keep my eyes on you. Then Grandma comes along in a halter and thong. Baby, this is what I gotta do.
I want to marry your whole family and be your favorite daddy, your grandpa and your little brother too. I won't be just a sailor if I move into your trailer. I want to be the captain and the crew. I'll be the man around the house, the community spouse. Still, I'm a savin' all my best for you. 'Cuz lovin' 1 is always fun but lovin' 4 is so much more and Baby, we can keep it in the family.
- solo -
I want to marry your whole family and be your favorite daddy, your grandpa and your little brother too. I won't be just a sailor if I move into your trailer. I want to be the captain and the crew. I'll be the man in charge, the tugboat and the barge. Still, I'm a savin' all my best for you. 'Cuz lovin' 1 is always fun but lovin' 4 is so much more and Baby, we can keep it in the family.
Yeah, then after all the lovin', introduce me to your cousin, 'cuz Baby, ain't she family? Baby, ain't she family? Baby, ain't she family, too?

Catfish 11-06-12 04:11 PM

What do you think some laws are for ?

This was about siblings, having some genetic impact (inbreeding) in case of children.

If "the state shall not interfere", what about sex between parents and their children ? :shifty:

CCIP 11-06-12 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Catfish (Post 1957596)
If "the state shall not interfere", what about sex between parents and their children ? :shifty:

Are we talking about adults or children here?

This is a different issue. If we're talking about activities between adults and minors, there is a legitimate issue of responsibility and accountability - children are susceptible to abuse, and are not in a position to make consent. But if we're talking about activities between two consenting adults, what is the problem?

I think the state should not interfere in things that responsible adults do with each other, end of story.

AVGWarhawk 11-06-12 04:22 PM

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responsible adults
Define.

CCIP 11-06-12 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 1957606)
Define.

In most Western societies, anybody over the age of 18 who has full political and social rights. If you let them vote, pay taxes, and participate in any open social activity, they should have an equal right to do what they want at home, within reasonable confines and as long as it comes at reasonably low harm to anyone else.

As the article suggests, by the way, while incest is known to create medical risks, it is also far less of a medical and social risks than a multitude of other things, including smoking, drinking and eating fast food. Which to me again suggests that regulation of this is purely social - people will allow harmful behaviour to be a private choice if enough of the population does it, and deny even slightly harmful behaviour if it is culturally-taboo. I think there is a case to be made for protecting one's culture, but it shouldn't over-ride the common human right of all responsible adults to do what they please with themselves. Especially when it becomes political, which IMO is just a waste of the government's resources and an excellent way to bully minorities into submission, which no democratic government should have the right to do.

Oh, and it's not like I'm promoting incest. It's just that a) I see this as a matter of democratic principle; b) I also see evidence that fighting cases of incest between adults has probably caused more harm (in the broadest, including political, sense) than incest itself.

Buddahaid 11-06-12 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 1957606)
Define.

Can't. I too busy at work to reply....uh......never mind.

Tribesman 11-06-12 04:32 PM

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Are we talking about adults or children here?
In this case its two adults with different mothers but the same father.

The actual question that was raised is should these two be facing a 2 year jail term?

AVGWarhawk 11-06-12 04:38 PM

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The actual question that was raised is should these two be facing a 2 year jail term?
To extreme IMO.

AVGWarhawk 11-06-12 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by CCIP (Post 1957608)
In most Western societies, anybody over the age of 18 who has full political and social rights. If you let them vote, pay taxes, and participate in any open social activity, they should have an equal right to do what they want at home, within reasonable confines and as long as it comes at reasonably low harm to anyone else.

As the article suggests, by the way, while incest is known to create medical risks, it is also far less of a medical and social risks than a multitude of other things, including smoking, drinking and eating fast food. Which to me again suggests that regulation of this is purely social - people will allow harmful behaviour to be a private choice if enough of the population does it, and deny even slightly harmful behaviour if it is culturally-taboo. I think there is a case to be made for protecting one's culture, but it shouldn't over-ride the common human right of all responsible adults to do what they please with themselves. Especially when it becomes political, which IMO is just a waste of the government's resources and an excellent way to bully minorities into submission, which no democratic government should have the right to do.

Oh, and it's not like I'm promoting incest. It's just that a) I see this as a matter of democratic principle; b) I also see evidence that fighting cases of incest between adults has probably caused more harm (in the broadest, including political, sense) than incest itself.

Well put sir!

mapuc 11-06-12 05:09 PM

I have always been learned to respect others standpoint in whatever it may concern and I do respect yours

But, a father-daughter(18+), Mother-son(18+) or a Brother-sister(18+) relationship is in my mind so wrong. I can't make a long speech why I think so. I just feel it's wrong.

Markus

Tribesman 11-06-12 05:23 PM

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I can't make a long speech why I think so. I just feel it's wrong.
But the question is...should these two be facing a possible 2 years jail term?


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