Scientific American: "Antiscience Beliefs Jeopardize U.S. Democracy" - Page 3

Oberon · 11-06-12, 03:38 PM

I thought this thread was about pancakes?

11-06-12, 03:44 PM

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I thought this thread was about pancakes?

That would be a batter topic

Sailor Steve · 11-06-12, 03:45 PM

You're really scraping that one.

Buddahaid · 11-06-12, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

You're really scraping that one.

Don't be so flippant.

u crank · 11-06-12, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by gimpy117

...candidates have to pretend that the world is 6,000 years old just to get a vote.

It's silly to expect our technological advantage to continue at this rate

Don't worry about it. It's all smoke and mirrors.

This.

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Originally Posted by Betonov

But, the situation may be unpleasant, it's not catastrophic. Science is not hindered by religions. Apart from stem cell research, which science managed to adapt by researching other sources than fetuses.
All this anti-science talk is a way to be loud. pro-science people will just need to be louder

Very good point.

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A smart believer will support science, a dumb atheist will still not contribute.

Even better point.

Pass the maple syrup.

Betonov · 11-06-12, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by u crank

Pass the maple syrup.

I never had pancakes with maple syrup. I really got to visit the US soon

Sailor Steve · 11-06-12, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Buddahaid

Don't be so flippant.

I can see you're not trying to butter me up.

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Originally Posted by Betonov

I never had pancakes with maple syrup. I really got to visit the US soon

I can't imagine having them any other way. I've tried most of the pancake-house variations, and many are good, but I always come back to butter and maple syrup. Well, actually cheap imitation syrup. The real stuff is very expensive.

CaptainMattJ. · 11-06-12, 08:15 PM

There never has been a purpose for these organized religions, in my opinion. And their staunch ideologies have clashed and still clash today with progressive ideas.

as sort of a de-facto requirement to be president they need to be religious for some reason or another, because it matters to people. With around 80% of the population being christians, it translates into the president gets big points for being a follower of a sect of christianity. But a presidential candidate who is atheist is still today looked down upon. It does noticeably affect his appeal to people. This is something that i still dont understand to this date. Any select organized religion bases it's belief system on an unanswerable question, the question of "where did it all come from" Science has explained everything except the ultimate question of where did everything begin (the big bang not explaining how the universe suddenly popped into existence from nothing). That question can't be answered. Therefore there are an infinite number of ways everything couldve suddenly come from nothing.

For instance, i could claim that the big bang was caused by Me and 24 sea otters finishing off the most epic choreography routine ever, and it's just as plausible as Christianity because the question doesn't have an answer. Therefore, no matter what you believed it shouldn't be relevant because anything is possible and unless that belief is immoral by general societal standards, it shouldn't have an effect on their appeal as a candidate for office.

The reason i suspect it matters is because of people's belief that with religion comes morality, which is in my opinion a terrible thing to think. Religion shouldn't be the source of your morality, you should be a morale person even without the need to believe in a religion.

(on a side note, pancakes without syrup is like having a cake and not being able to eat it. It's like opening up a whole new world of sugary goodness)

August · 11-06-12, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

The real stuff is very expensive.

But worth it. Especially if it's his first time.

Sailor Steve · 11-06-12, 08:31 PM

True dat.

NeonSamurai · 11-06-12, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Betonov

I never had pancakes with maple syrup. I really got to visit the US soon

That made me blink in confusion a little. Canada is more the capitol of maple syrup. Most Americans I know have corn syrup (not even the fake maple syrup) with their pancakes, in fact it can be a pain in the butt finding the real stuff here (and damn expensive). It is heavenly though (and I grew up in the maple syrup capital of the world, Quebec).

So have we totally derailed the thread yet?

Buddahaid · 11-06-12, 10:41 PM

Grew up in California and I've never heard of people using corn syrup!?

Sailor Steve · 11-06-12, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by NeonSamurai

So have we totally derailed the thread yet?

This thread had rails? I thought it was an off-road vehicle from the start.

NeonSamurai · 11-07-12, 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Buddahaid

Grew up in California and I've never heard of people using corn syrup!?

Table syrup like aunt Jemima's. It's base is usually some variant of corn syrup

August · 11-07-12, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by NeonSamurai

Table syrup like aunt Jemima's. It's base is usually some variant of corn syrup

Nasty stuff, full of chemicals and preservatives. Real maple syrup is pure maple sap extract and far better tasting.

11-06-12, 03:45 PM	#33
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11-06-12, 08:15 PM	#38
CaptainMattJ. The Old Man Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Sin City Posts: 1,364 Downloads: 55 Uploads: 0	There never has been a purpose for these organized religions, in my opinion. And their staunch ideologies have clashed and still clash today with progressive ideas. as sort of a de-facto requirement to be president they need to be religious for some reason or another, because it matters to people. With around 80% of the population being christians, it translates into the president gets big points for being a follower of a sect of christianity. But a presidential candidate who is atheist is still today looked down upon. It does noticeably affect his appeal to people. This is something that i still dont understand to this date. Any select organized religion bases it's belief system on an unanswerable question, the question of "where did it all come from" Science has explained everything except the ultimate question of where did everything begin (the big bang not explaining how the universe suddenly popped into existence from nothing). That question can't be answered. Therefore there are an infinite number of ways everything couldve suddenly come from nothing. For instance, i could claim that the big bang was caused by Me and 24 sea otters finishing off the most epic choreography routine ever, and it's just as plausible as Christianity because the question doesn't have an answer. Therefore, no matter what you believed it shouldn't be relevant because anything is possible and unless that belief is immoral by general societal standards, it shouldn't have an effect on their appeal as a candidate for office. The reason i suspect it matters is because of people's belief that with religion comes morality, which is in my opinion a terrible thing to think. Religion shouldn't be the source of your morality, you should be a morale person even without the need to believe in a religion. (on a side note, pancakes without syrup is like having a cake and not being able to eat it. It's like opening up a whole new world of sugary goodness) __________________ A popular Government without popular information nor the means of acquiring it, is but a Prologue to a Farce or a Tragedy or perhaps both. Knowledge will forever govern ignorance, and a people who mean to be their own Governors must arm themselves with the power knowledge gives - James Madison

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Buddahaid Shark above Space Chicken Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 9,327 Downloads: 162 Uploads: 0	Grew up in California and I've never heard of people using corn syrup!? __________________ "However vast the darkness, we must provide our own light." Stanley Kubrick "Tomorrow belongs to those who can hear it coming." David Bowie

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Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	I thought this thread was about pancakes?