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Old 11-06-12, 07:04 AM   #1
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Default Scientific American: "Antiscience Beliefs Jeopardize U.S. Democracy"

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A large number of major party contenders for political office this year took antiscience positions against evolution, human-induced climate change, vaccines, stem cell research, and more.

Such positions are surprising because the economy is such a big factor in this election, and half the economic growth since World War II can be traced to innovations in science and technology.

Partisans at both ends of the political spectrum have been guilty of science denialism. But the Republican version is particularly dangerous because it attacks the validity of science itself.

U.S. voters must push candidates and elected officials to express their views on the major science questions facing the nation or risk losing out to those countries with reality-based policies.
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Old 11-06-12, 08:11 AM   #2
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Oh Skybird, what would you do without us to judge?
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Old 11-06-12, 08:24 AM   #3
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Oh Skybird, what would you do without us to judge?
Going after the EU, Germany, the Euro, corrupted politicians, economic lobbyists, predatory capitalists, politically correct good-doers, gender-engineers, Islam, my new extremely noisy neighbours who after three months already are at war with half of the street.

Sorry if this disappoints you, but America is not the only but just one of several points on the list.

BTW, I am neither the editor nor the owner of the Scientific American. Despite the misleading title, last time I checked it was still an American-made publication.
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BTW, I am neither the editor nor the owner of the Scientific American. Despite the misleading title, last time I checked it was still an American-made publication.
So? It's a German posting it. Who made you the judge of us or anyone else?
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Old 11-06-12, 09:02 AM   #5
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So? It's a German posting it. Who made you the judge of us or anyone else?
Because the same crap is happening in your, mine, his... every country that isnt a theocracy.

But, the situation may be unpleasant, it's not catastrophic. Science is not hindered by religions. Apart from stem cell research, which science managed to adapt by researching other sources than fetuses.
All this anti-science talk is a way to be loud. pro-science people will just need to be louder

A smart believer will suport science, a dumb atheist will still not contribute

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Old 11-06-12, 09:26 AM   #6
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If there was a sure cure for cancer, there would be billions lost in the drug industry, look what's going on in the energy industry in America, even I was dumded down years ago that we had no oil here, what a suprise that we have so much under our feet and we have so many denying the fact, and you know what,, global warming is really cause by all those windmills slowing the atmosphere down so it can't cool its self not to mention how many birds that are killed. If you want to get rid of co2 in the air grow more trees and stop these third world countries from cutting down their forest to make charcoal. I think some where it says we are ranked 7th in the worlds economy and we fell out of the top ten prosperious nations in the world.
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Because the same crap is happening in your, mine, his... every country that isnt a theocracy.
Well, in your defence, he could have written in the title ''western democracy''
Skybird sees himself as an authority of just about everything. For the past 7 years that I've been reading his posts here i've found that he loves to cherry pick negative articles in order to pronounce his judgements as if they actually had any value.
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Skybird sees himself as an authority of just about everything. For the past 7 years that I've been reading his posts here i've found that he loves to cherry pick negative articles in order to pronounce his judgements as if they actually had any value.
He's the devils advocate on the forum. He even gets some of them right.

I can be the sunshine positive optimist of this forum if you want someone to balance Sky out. But I'll probably shoot myself after a week
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Yubba, the amount of birds killed by wind turbines is proportionally minuscule compared to cats and other predators.
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Yubba, the amount of birds killed by wind turbines is proportionally minuscule compared to cats and other predators.
Well I haven't seen a cat take down a bald eagle lately.
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my cat once caught a hawk. the last time I saw it was somewhere above the Alps
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my cat once caught a hawk. the last time I saw it was somewhere above the Alps
Sorry for your loss, at least big birds do not grab people,, that was a favorite saying,, momma yubba says,, got it from Bullwinkle and Rockie show.
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He's the devils advocate on the forum. He even gets some of them right.
Self-appointed devils advocate.

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I can be the sunshine positive optimist of this forum if you want someone to balance Sky out. But I'll probably shoot myself after a week
I don't know if it's even possible to balance out such awesome and terrible negativity but please don't try. I like reading your posts and wouldn't want to see you hurt yourself!
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Well, in the cold war we too to science like fish to water,

now...candidates have to pretend that the world is 6,000 years old just to get a vote.

It's silly to expect our technological advantage to continue at this rate
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