War Thunder - Navy MMO - Page 2

CCIP · 10-14-12, 03:58 PM

Gaijin did not make IL-2 Sturmovik. In about 2008, they received a license from 1C/Maddox Games to develop the Birds of Prey/Wings of Prey, the console-friendly flight game adaptations using some of the IL-2 technology and name. They've done a good job of that, making a fast, good-looking, scalable engine. I would not regard WoP as a true flight sim, being substantially stripped down in that regard even from IL-2, but it's very servicable for something that's accessible and large-scale. It's a total non-surprise that it works for MMO games in general.

But Gaijin have nothing to do with IL-2 itself and although Gaijin are also located in Russia, afaik no Gaijin employees ever worked on the IL-2 series proper. It is no more (and arguably less) connected to IL-2 than Rise of Flight or Theater of War (both of which share some of the technology and staff with original IL-2 development).

Zgok · 10-14-12, 09:38 PM

Hahah ah yes, you are right, I just looked at its box.. I feel so daft for getting it confused

. Thanks for the clarification.

StarTrekMike · 10-15-12, 04:01 PM

I tried War Thunder, as a fan of IL-2 1946, Cliffs of Dover and hard-core flight sims like DCS A-10C and Black Shark, I can't honestly say I was that impressed.

I know that it is still being worked on but I feel that they are being a bit over-eager about saying that the "simulation" mode will be even mildly accurate.

Don't get me wrong, it is a fun game, I just think the sheer scope of the title will not allow anything close to the accuracy that many of the fans seem to think will be present.

Plus, I don't like the idea of a f2p flight sim with stats and a unlock system, it makes it feel like a xbox game to me.

Cybermat47 · 10-15-12, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by StarTrekMike

I know that it is still being worked on but I feel that they are being a bit over-eager about saying that the "simulation" mode will be even mildly accurate.

Oh, I've played simulation mode on Birds of Steel multiplayer on Xbox 360.
Here's a transcript of the voice communication:
CYBERMAT47: Oh my God, I just killed an AI!
OTHER PLAYERS: Holy $&@€, dude, you must have developed this game! We're only 43 minutes in and you've already got a kill! And you've only gone into a spin and blacked out 53 times!

CCIP · 10-15-12, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Cybermat47

Oh, I've played simulation mode on Birds of Steel multiplayer on Xbox 360.
Here's a transcript of the voice communication:
CYBERMAT47: Oh my God, I just killed an AI!
OTHER PLAYERS: Holy $&@€, dude, you must have developed this game! We're only 43 minutes in and you've already got a kill! And you've only gone into a spin and blacked out 53 times!

Difficulty (or good gameplay as the case may be) doesn't necessarily mean realism

Besides, 43 minutes isn't much compared to the learning curve of weeks that a lot of complex sims have, and that's just for learning systems.

That said, I can't imagine an MMO that's full-blown in terms of complexity, so this is probably a great engine and a great approach for creating a reasonably popular, populated game with lots of people to play against.

Cybermat47 · 10-15-12, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by CCIP

Difficulty (or good gameplay as the case may be) doesn't necessarily mean realism

Besides, 43 minutes isn't much compared to the learning curve of weeks that a lot of complex sims have, and that's just for learning systems.

That said, I can't imagine an MMO that's full-blown in terms of complexity, so this is probably a great engine and a great approach for creating a reasonably popular, populated game with lots of people to play against.

OK, so I was exaggerating.
But still, Gaijin have proved themselves to be quite good at finding that balance between playability and realism, especially for Xbox and PS players!

CCIP · 10-15-12, 05:41 PM

Yep, they're a good team. I never really got into WoP very much, but I love how well-optimized their engine is. Looks great, runs far smoother than anything in the original IL-2 series ever did. Pretty stable online too. So I've got no doubts that this will run smooth and look good, gotta see what they do with the gameplay for the ships I guess.

Kloef · 10-16-12, 10:54 AM

After playing for 3 days i can say, this game is solid. Ok it's not a simulator but as far as game immersion, good fights and plenty of opponents goes this game has it all.

I had some lag yesterday on 2 occasions, but overall the game runs smooth and the flying is fun and entertaining, and i love that because i've flown sims for a very very long time and never tried anything like this. As said the arcade mode is fun, it's like a flying circus

, an arena of just about any aircraft, really nice!

Beta version has no ship control available yet, but i guess this will be possible once the game goes in the next phase of development, the open Beta..

Cybermat47 · 10-16-12, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Kloef

After playing for 3 days i can say, this game is solid. Ok it's not a simulator but as far as game immersion, good fights and plenty of opponents goes this game has it all.

I had some lag yesterday on 2 occasions, but overall the game runs smooth and the flying is fun and entertaining, and i love that because i've flown sims for a very very long time and never tried anything like this. As said the arcade mode is fun, it's like a flying circus

, an arena of just about any aircraft, really nice!

Beta version has no ship control available yet, but i guess this will be possible once the game goes in the next phase of development, the open Beta..

You should get Birds of Steel.
It's pretty much an offline version (but has an online multiplayer option), and it has a bucketload of campaigns. About 9, 11 with the Battle of Britain expansion.

Kloef · 10-19-12, 02:41 AM

Birds of Steel is not PC, it looks great though.

I'll stick with War Thunder i guess i really like it

Arael · 10-25-12, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Rilder

Wait they are adding playable ships? I Thought it was just a world of warplanes wannabe?

Maybe I should download it... (In beta)

War Thunder is designed to be a "World of..." killer. Right now it's only aircraft, but they'll be adding playable warships and ground units in due time. So a single match will have players flying air support, charging the enemy lines in tanks, and providing long range fire support with naval artillery.

gunx · 11-01-12, 03:20 PM

Open beta has been launched in Russian, world open beta is to be followed very soon. Everyone will be able to try WT !

trailer:

Cybermat47 · 11-02-12, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Arael

War Thunder is designed to be a "World of..." killer. Right now it's only aircraft, but they'll be adding playable warships and ground units in due time. So a single match will have players flying air support, charging the enemy lines in tanks, and providing long range fire support with naval artillery.

Hmm... I like that idea! It'll require ingame chat, though, so you can be like:

CMDR YURI: Tigers sighted, co-ordinates 154 746!

CPT DIMITRI: Laying down artillery barrage!

AWESOME

11-02-12, 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arael

War Thunder is designed to be a "World of..." killer. Right now it's only aircraft, but they'll be adding playable warships and ground units in due time. So a single match will have players flying air support, charging the enemy lines in tanks, and providing long range fire support with naval artillery.

I seriously doubt that Warthunder will be harmful in the least to the world of series. Sure it may have all three theatres in one game, but having all three balanced and having the level of variety that the world of has. Not to mention that Wargaming has managed to do F2P pretty well in my opinion.

Kloef · 11-04-12, 06:07 PM

You know, i play both World of Tanks and WarThunder, i also joined World of Warplanes Beta..

World of tanks to me is like playing the most awesome game there is since i'm a Tanker next to a Subsimmer and i'm proud of it

I've been playing my ass of all weekend since WoT won the Golden Joystick Award and i recieved some great goodies.

Warthuinder is a great game when i feel like flying, and its a really great game with alot of potential, the new maps released last week add new maps with PT boats, and they are realy pounding at you, they move in quick and suddenly you are attacked by 5 or more, you can just feel that one day they will be player controllable

World of Warplanes is a laugh, no cockpit view and lousy handling.. but i will keep my eye on it

10-14-12, 03:58 PM	#16
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	Gaijin did not make IL-2 Sturmovik. In about 2008, they received a license from 1C/Maddox Games to develop the Birds of Prey/Wings of Prey, the console-friendly flight game adaptations using some of the IL-2 technology and name. They've done a good job of that, making a fast, good-looking, scalable engine. I would not regard WoP as a true flight sim, being substantially stripped down in that regard even from IL-2, but it's very servicable for something that's accessible and large-scale. It's a total non-surprise that it works for MMO games in general. But Gaijin have nothing to do with IL-2 itself and although Gaijin are also located in Russia, afaik no Gaijin employees ever worked on the IL-2 series proper. It is no more (and arguably less) connected to IL-2 than Rise of Flight or Theater of War (both of which share some of the technology and staff with original IL-2 development). __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

10-14-12, 09:38 PM	#17
Zgok Seaman Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Side 3 (Principality of Zeon) Posts: 36 Downloads: 102 Uploads: 0	Hahah ah yes, you are right, I just looked at its box.. I feel so daft for getting it confused . Thanks for the clarification. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

10-15-12, 04:01 PM	#18
StarTrekMike Navy Dude Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Made in Vermont Posts: 178 Downloads: 137 Uploads: 0	I tried War Thunder, as a fan of IL-2 1946, Cliffs of Dover and hard-core flight sims like DCS A-10C and Black Shark, I can't honestly say I was that impressed. I know that it is still being worked on but I feel that they are being a bit over-eager about saying that the "simulation" mode will be even mildly accurate. Don't get me wrong, it is a fun game, I just think the sheer scope of the title will not allow anything close to the accuracy that many of the fans seem to think will be present. Plus, I don't like the idea of a f2p flight sim with stats and a unlock system, it makes it feel like a xbox game to me. __________________ I think we lost em...hey whats that pinging sound?

10-15-12, 05:41 PM	#22
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	Yep, they're a good team. I never really got into WoP very much, but I love how well-optimized their engine is. Looks great, runs far smoother than anything in the original IL-2 series ever did. Pretty stable online too. So I've got no doubts that this will run smooth and look good, gotta see what they do with the gameplay for the ships I guess. __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

10-16-12, 10:54 AM	#23
Kloef Weps Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Netherlands Posts: 360 Downloads: 30 Uploads: 0	After playing for 3 days i can say, this game is solid. Ok it's not a simulator but as far as game immersion, good fights and plenty of opponents goes this game has it all. I had some lag yesterday on 2 occasions, but overall the game runs smooth and the flying is fun and entertaining, and i love that because i've flown sims for a very very long time and never tried anything like this. As said the arcade mode is fun, it's like a flying circus, an arena of just about any aircraft, really nice! Beta version has no ship control available yet, but i guess this will be possible once the game goes in the next phase of development, the open Beta.. __________________ http://www.dutchsubmarines.com/

10-19-12, 02:41 AM	#25
Kloef Weps Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Netherlands Posts: 360 Downloads: 30 Uploads: 0	Birds of Steel is not PC, it looks great though. I'll stick with War Thunder i guess i really like it __________________ http://www.dutchsubmarines.com/

11-01-12, 03:20 PM	#27
gunx Watch Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 16 Downloads: 12 Uploads: 0	Open beta has been launched in Russian, world open beta is to be followed very soon. Everyone will be able to try WT ! trailer:

11-04-12, 06:07 PM	#30
Kloef Weps Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Netherlands Posts: 360 Downloads: 30 Uploads: 0	You know, i play both World of Tanks and WarThunder, i also joined World of Warplanes Beta.. World of tanks to me is like playing the most awesome game there is since i'm a Tanker next to a Subsimmer and i'm proud of it I've been playing my ass of all weekend since WoT won the Golden Joystick Award and i recieved some great goodies. Warthuinder is a great game when i feel like flying, and its a really great game with alot of potential, the new maps released last week add new maps with PT boats, and they are realy pounding at you, they move in quick and suddenly you are attacked by 5 or more, you can just feel that one day they will be player controllable World of Warplanes is a laugh, no cockpit view and lousy handling.. but i will keep my eye on it __________________ http://www.dutchsubmarines.com/