Wikileaks' Julian Assange seeks Supreme Court hearing

[Gerald]

[Tchocky]

Nah Julian, you're a villain because you jumped bail and won't face justice in Sweden. Innocent or guilty, hiding out in an embassy doesn't prove anything.

[Gerald]

^That's right, good move

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Tchocky

Nah Julian, you're a villain because you jumped bail and won't face justice in Sweden. Innocent or guilty, hiding out in an embassy doesn't prove anything.

Precisely and as posted in #18

[Gerald]

Glad you corrected it so that no misunderstandings arise in the future,

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Vendor

Glad you corrected it so that no misunderstandings arise in the future,

Simply pointing out a mutual opinion.

[Gerald]

Originally Posted by jimbuna

Simply pointing out a mutual opinion.

Excellent done, quick-witted.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Vendor

Excellent done, quick-witted.

Better to be an eedjit within a tribe than one looking for one.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Tchocky

Nah Julian, you're a villain because you jumped bail and won't face justice in Sweden.

Even if it is just a stageact in order to trap you - you must play by the rules and allow getting trapped. Be stupid. Play by your enemy'S rules. "Justice" demands it.

Innocent or guilty, hiding out in an embassy doesn't prove anything.

Which he must not, since he is not formally charged. They want to question him on highly dubious claims risen against him, and on basis of a Swedish law that in principle allows any women unsatisfied with the sex she had to sue her lover over claims of rape - becasue she just felt bad afterwards. When I read that law the fist time and read a lawyers explanation of it, I just did not trust my eyes. It is hilarious. But hey, its Sweden, the home of gender-engineering and denial of any biological differences between male and female, so one should not be surprised, maybe.

If they only want to question him, they could have met him on neutral territory, or even in London. It would not have been the first time that in this sort of constellation such a solution has been practiced. That the Swedish rules that out shows that this never has been about questioning him, but that they want him in their fangs and this can only be reasonably explained by the US making pressure and wanting to take revenge against him. It is also part of a basic campaign to destroy Wikileaks and reducing if not eliminating Assange's freedom to act, in order to take him out of action. This part of the plot without doubt has worked until here.

[Gerald]

What is true in the case of Assange, it is that when he was here last, so messed the Swedish prosecutor's office to take him to court, and Assange left the country, that is a legal mistake, that Sweden did not choose to interview him on neutral half of the field is very prestigious.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Vendor

What is true in the case of Assange, it is that when he was here last, so messed the Swedish prosecutor's office to take him to court, and Assange left the country, that is a legal mistake, that Sweden did not choose to interview him on neutral half of the field is very prestigious.

When I know that "justice" is being hijacked and abused by an extremely powerful enemy-to-the-death in order to secure control of my physical person, I would jump bail, too. The Swedish allowed the "justice" system to get abused for political opportunism and by being pushed by a very powerful foreign nation.

Assange pissed a huge empire and stripped the regime down to its underpants. The US will never forgive for being shown like that in public. All that dirty laundry of theirs was meant to be kept secret, forever. And then came Assange and pulled them into the spotlight. Scandal! Crime...! Treason...!!!

the only scandals lay in some of the information revealed, and in the fact that the wide public does not draw consequences form this, and those responsible for these things are still in power, sometimes even got re-elected meanwhile. THAT is the real scandal.

Shoot the messenger, ignore the message. That's the name of the game.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Skybird

When I know that "justice" is being hijacked and abused by an extremely powerful enemy-to-the-death in order to secure control of my physical person, I would jump bail, too. The Swedish allowed the "justice" system to get abused for political opportunism and by being pushed by a very powerful foreign nation.

Assange pissed a huge empire and stripped the regime down to its underpants. The US will never forgive for being shown like that in public. All that dirty laundry of theirs was meant to be kept secret, forever. And then came Assange and pulled them into the spotlight. Scandal! Crime...! Treason...!!!

the only scandals lay in some of the information revealed, and in the fact that the wide public does not draw consequences form this, and those responsible for these things are still in power, sometimes even got re-elected meanwhile. THAT is the real scandal.

Shoot the messenger, ignore the message. That's the name of the game.

So you support Assange and what he did?

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by jimbuna

So you support Assange and what he did?

I support the cause. And not for sympathy with the man, I do not like him, not personally, and not by the way he dealt with people working for him in his organisation. He is no pleasant personality, it seems. But our governments are so rotten, corrupt and criminal, how could I not support revealing their dirty laundry? I am so serious over this that I cancelled my Paypal and Visacard accounts when both companies bent to US pressure to isolate Wikipedia back then. Blind loyalty to a group of gangsters, or loyalty to a country that goes wrong just because it is that country, has never been my thing. If things stink, then things stink.

[Catfish]

Originally Posted by jimbuna

So you support Assange and what he did?

Pardon ?

What he did? Who committed the crimes uncovered ?
He did what all free journalists of the world would have done, who stand up for free press, journalism and freedom of speech.
Not that anyone in the Fox- and CNN-brainwashed USA knows what that is or so it seems.
Maybe they should have shot the journalists during the Watergate scandal ?

A government with its secret services committing such crimes in cold blood, does such callous cover-ups while misleading and fooling their own people, is the real traitor and unpatriotic

[Gerald]

Originally Posted by Skybird

When I know that "justice" is being hijacked and abused by an extremely powerful enemy-to-the-death in order to secure control of my physical person, I would jump bail, too. The Swedish allowed the "justice" system to get abused for political opportunism and by being pushed by a very powerful foreign nation.

Assange pissed a huge empire and stripped the regime down to its underpants. The US will never forgive for being shown like that in public. All that dirty laundry of theirs was meant to be kept secret, forever. And then came Assange and pulled them into the spotlight. Scandal! Crime...! Treason...!!!

the only scandals lay in some of the information revealed, and in the fact that the wide public does not draw consequences form this, and those responsible for these things are still in power, sometimes even got re-elected meanwhile. THAT is the real scandal.

Shoot the messenger, ignore the message. That's the name of the game.

Now it is a fact that it is about several things, including material that circulated, and that there was a focus on accusations that he was well aware, and it should be said that he got cold feet where they are allegations came to light after the UK and Sweden, which has a co-operation ... the decision to extradite him to Sweden, after the Supreme Court had told he, hence the decision as he was to go to some other "neutral" place.