Should juvenile murderers be sentenced to life in prison?

Onkel Neal · 09-25-12, 06:42 PM

Life sentence? No. 20 years of intense Algebra and Trig training, yeah! That'll teach them.

Cybermat47 · 09-25-12, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

Life sentence? No. 20 years of intense Algebra and Trig training, yeah! That'll teach them.

That'd teach the guy who shot up his algebra teacher!

On second thought, should we really be using tortures that would sicken the SS, SA, and Gestapo?

nikimcbee · 09-25-12, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

Life sentence? No. 20 years of intense Algebra and Trig training, yeah! That'll teach them.

Minnesota has hug therapy.

If you must kill somebody, that's the state to do it in.

eddie · 09-25-12, 06:51 PM

Throw in some calculus too for good measure!

soopaman2 · 09-25-12, 07:16 PM

I have to agree with some of the hardliners. But here is why.

When you incarcerate them for extended periods at a young age they are influenced by what is around them, other criminals.

They become institutionalized in worst case scenarios, and are unable to function as a normal society member once released.

They just end up back, especially after learning new things while in the can.

If you slap them on the wrist, they think it's ok and will most always end up hurting someone else.

It should also be on a case by case basis. Not some blanket rule. Dealing with children and teenagers can be delicate.

Takeda Shingen · 09-25-12, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

Life sentence? No. 20 years of intense Algebra and Trig training, yeah! That'll teach them.

Oh hells yes.

09-26-12, 01:51 AM

The problem with the story and what the real issue is the nature of the sentence.
Its just plain dumb and lazy. It makes as much sense as other knee jerk reactions to law and order issues.

JU_88 · 09-26-12, 03:20 AM

I dont know what the solution is, but it winds me up when people give too much consideration to the human rights of violent criminals, those said people never consider the human rights of their victims, do they?
That said it depends on the circumstances of the crime.
But if some one is killed or badly hurt in an unprovoked attack, and the person(s) responsible shows no remorse, then that person(s) needs be off the street - perminantly. Lock them up or excute them, I dont care, but Im pretty sure society does not want them back.
I see no problem with capital punishment for repeat offenders, nobody gets wrongfully convicted two or three times in a row.

Oh and even 10 year olds understand that murder is wrong by societies standards. So I dont have much sympathy even for child murderers. Sorry.

09-26-12, 12:47 PM

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That said it depends on the circumstances of the crime.

Which is why mandatory sentencing is just dumb and lazy.

Jimbuna · 09-26-12, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

Life sentence? No. 20 years of intense Algebra and Trig training, yeah! That'll teach them.

Well that way it'll soon only be teachers that are getting murdered and I know I often felt like murdering mine during my school days

AVGWarhawk · 09-26-12, 01:17 PM

Boot camp.

and Tribesman says....

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soopaman2 Der Alte Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: New Jersey, USA Posts: 3,316 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 0	I have to agree with some of the hardliners. But here is why. When you incarcerate them for extended periods at a young age they are influenced by what is around them, other criminals. They become institutionalized in worst case scenarios, and are unable to function as a normal society member once released. They just end up back, especially after learning new things while in the can. If you slap them on the wrist, they think it's ok and will most always end up hurting someone else. It should also be on a case by case basis. Not some blanket rule. Dealing with children and teenagers can be delicate. __________________ If Hitler invaded Hell I would make at least a favourable reference to the devil in the House of Commons. -Winston Churchill- The most fascinating man in the world.

09-26-12, 03:20 AM	#8
JU_88 Silent Hunter Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: UK Posts: 3,818 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	I dont know what the solution is, but it winds me up when people give too much consideration to the human rights of violent criminals, those said people never consider the human rights of their victims, do they? That said it depends on the circumstances of the crime. But if some one is killed or badly hurt in an unprovoked attack, and the person(s) responsible shows no remorse, then that person(s) needs be off the street - perminantly. Lock them up or excute them, I dont care, but Im pretty sure society does not want them back. I see no problem with capital punishment for repeat offenders, nobody gets wrongfully convicted two or three times in a row. Oh and even 10 year olds understand that murder is wrong by societies standards. So I dont have much sympathy even for child murderers. Sorry. Last edited by JU_88; 09-26-12 at 03:38 AM.

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Tribesman Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	The problem with the story and what the real issue is the nature of the sentence. Its just plain dumb and lazy. It makes as much sense as other knee jerk reactions to law and order issues.