Posting a lie, doesn't make it true

mapuc · 09-05-12, 04:02 PM

Several of my friends on Facebook, keeps on posting and reposting a speech that the Australian prime minister Julia Gillard should have made

First time I read the "speech" I was confused. Did a politician really say that, I doubted.

After a few posting on same speech, I started to dig into this story- And I found out that it was not true at all.

So I posted the link to this page that explain that. The answer I got was

-" You page is not truthfully at all "

Here are the famous speech

http://urbanlegends.about.com/od/gov...Immigrants.htm

I didn't see the speech for awhile, until today when one of my friends reposted it again.

Markus

Sailor Steve · 09-05-12, 04:32 PM

You need to debunk it there. Show them they are posting a lie.

Herr-Berbunch · 09-05-12, 04:33 PM

I remember reading that about John Howard, don't know if that was true either but it should be.

mapuc · 09-05-12, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

You need to debunk it there. Show them they are posting a lie.

You're right Steve. The problem is that, there are people that are so in hate of other people, religion, politics a.s.o, that they believe everything as long it confirm their hatred.

I have decided to just leave it there. Next time I see someone post that speech I do nothing.

Many of them are my friends, but I do not share all of their believes.

Markus

Sailor Steve · 09-05-12, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by mapuc

The problem is that, there are people that are so in hate of other people, religion, politics a.s.o, that they believe everything as long it confirm their hatred.

Sounds just like some of the threads we see here. The big difference here is that we don't put up with it.

Takeda Shingen · 09-05-12, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Sounds just like some of the threads we see here. The big difference here is that we don't put up with it.

Exactly. I see it as the duty of the community to wage war against ignorance.

razark · 09-05-12, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

Exactly. I see it as the duty of the community to wage war against ignorance.

Ignorance can be fixed. Stupid is forever.

mookiemookie · 09-05-12, 07:20 PM

Unfortunately, posting a lie over and over on the internet makes it true in the minds of the folks who wish to believe it so.

Ducimus · 09-05-12, 07:22 PM

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Posting a lie, doesn't make it true

It's my understanding that if something is repeated enough, some people can be made to believe anything. A couple people on this very forum, are fantastic examples of this.

Cybermat47 · 09-05-12, 08:24 PM

What the ...

Oberon · 09-05-12, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Ducimus

It's my understanding that if something is repeated enough, some people can be made to believe anything. A couple people on this very forum, are fantastic examples of this.

Heck, conspiracy theorists would argue that non-conspiracy theorists are the ones who have repeated the lie over and over again.
C'est la vie. The truth is in the eye of the beholder.

Kptlt. Neuerburg · 09-05-12, 10:51 PM

Don't forget what this guy said about lies.

09-06-12, 01:49 AM

A question mapuc.
Several times you have posted some crazyness your friends have posted to you, several times you have put up loony conspiracy theories you have been forwarded by your friends.
At what point do you decide that those friends are actually crazy and should be laughed at instead of accomodated?

You write that in future you will ignore some of their nonsense you describe as hate filled.
In my opinion if you were really their friend you would call them fools and point out their sillyness.

soopaman2 · 09-06-12, 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Kptlt. Hellmut Neuerburg

Don't forget what this guy said about lies.

If you repeat a lie enough it becomes the truth.

I can point you to a news outlet owned by an Australian that does that. He has more influence over American politics than citizens do.

So the moral is, be happy you aren't being subverted from outside, like we are.

09-06-12, 06:13 AM

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I can point you to a news outlet owned by an Australian that does that. He has more influence over American politics than citizens do.

No you can't.
He became an American citizen decades ago

09-05-12, 04:02 PM	#1
mapuc CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 20,541 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	Posting a lie, doesn't make it true Several of my friends on Facebook, keeps on posting and reposting a speech that the Australian prime minister Julia Gillard should have made First time I read the "speech" I was confused. Did a politician really say that, I doubted. After a few posting on same speech, I started to dig into this story- And I found out that it was not true at all. So I posted the link to this page that explain that. The answer I got was -" You page is not truthfully at all " Here are the famous speech http://urbanlegends.about.com/od/gov...Immigrants.htm I didn't see the speech for awhile, until today when one of my friends reposted it again. Markus

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Kptlt. Neuerburg Admiral Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 2,279 Downloads: 54 Uploads: 0	Don't forget what this guy said about lies. __________________ "When you're born into this world, you're given a ticket to the freak show. If you're born in America you get a front row seat." - George Carlin

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Tribesman Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	A question mapuc. Several times you have posted some crazyness your friends have posted to you, several times you have put up loony conspiracy theories you have been forwarded by your friends. At what point do you decide that those friends are actually crazy and should be laughed at instead of accomodated? You write that in future you will ignore some of their nonsense you describe as hate filled. In my opinion if you were really their friend you would call them fools and point out their sillyness.