I thought Iraq didn't have any WMD

[August]

Originally Posted by JU_88

Google "United States support for Iraq during the Iran - Iraq war"
And scour through the 69,900 results until you can find a source you like.
But dont expect articals from major US main stream media outlets
(for obvious reasons)

So in other words it's more foreign bull crap.

[JU_88]

Originally Posted by August

So in other words it's more foreign bull crap.

To you it is yes.
Think of it this way, any negative artical that the U.S media writes about China - is just 'foreign bull crap' to a patriotic chinese man, doesn't mean he is automatically correct though does it?.
Is that fair?

[August]

Originally Posted by JU_88

To you yes, to everyones else, maybe not.
Think of it this way, any negative artical that the U.S media writes about China - is just 'foreign bull crap' to a patriotic chinese man, doesn't mean he is automatically correct though does it?.
Is that fair?

I have no reason to doubt that most of it is. On the other hand foreign media have a proven track record of distortions and outright lies when it comes to my country. Wasn't it you just the other day trying to tell me that a little Ron Paul rally drew thousands of veterans when it was just a couple hundred guys claiming to be vets? Isn't it you who keeps trying to make a case that 911 was an inside job? Why should we believe anything you say?

Now i'm sure that a US company or three had it's hand in Saddams cookie jar but whether they did it with the permission and approval of the US government is another thing. AFAIK the only thing we gave Saddam (along with a bunch of other countries) is some Anthrax samples as part of a vaccine development program. Kind of a dumb idea in hindsight but that does not equal giving them *all* their WMD like you claim.

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by August

Now i'm sure that a US company or three had it's hand in Saddams cookie jar but whether they did it with the permission and approval of the US government is another thing. AFAIK the only thing we gave Saddam (along with a bunch of other countries) is some Anthrax samples as part of a vaccine development program. Kind of a dumb idea in hindsight but that does not equal giving them *all* their WMD like you claim.

T]he United States actively supported the Iraqi war effort by supplying the Iraqis with billions of dollars of credits, by providing U.S. military intelligence and advice to the Iraqis, and by closely monitoring third country arms sales to Iraq to make sure that Iraq had the military weaponry required. The United States also provided strategic operational advice to the Iraqis to better use their assets in combat... The CIA, including both CIA Director Casey and Deputy Director Gates, knew of, approved of, and assisted in the sale of non-U.S. origin military weapons, ammunition and vehicles to Iraq. My notes, memoranda and other documents in my NSC files show or tend to show that the CIA knew of, approved of, and assisted in the sale of non-U.S. origin military weapons, munitions and vehicles to Iraq.

- Statement by former National Security Council staffmember Howard Teicher to the U.S. District Court, Southern District of Florida.

http://www.webcitation.org/5flvP0UgC

[MH]

USA gave aid to Iraqis as long as he played the ball then he miscalculated with Kuwait and got screwed...that's life.

[JU_88]

Originally Posted by August

Wasn't it you just the other day trying to tell me that a little Ron Paul rally drew thousands of veterans when it was just a couple hundred guys claiming to be vets?.

My mistake, it was approx 400 vets and 'thousands' of supporters. Anyway keep in mind Paul still got more donations from military personell than any of other candidates did. And that cam for Your media sources, not from any of that foreign muck.

Originally Posted by August

Isn't it you who keeps trying to make a case that 911 was an inside job?.

No, because questioning something is not the same as calling it something else. I make the case to not be too dismissive of people who have an alternative views on something, I actually remember the 9/11 thread and you were one of the few people that argued your case very mature and reasonable manner on that one (without name calling and character attacks.)

Originally Posted by August

Why should we believe anything you say?.

Why should we believe anything anyone says?. Do you have a track record of being 100% right on every subject in GT? You are right sometimes but not always, nobody is.

Originally Posted by August

but that does not equal giving them *all* their WMD like you claim.

I did? ....

Originally Posted by JU88

(Possibly <insert humour> when we or yourselves sold them to him)

Just abit of British syncism/sarcasm mate.

[August]

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

Economic aid, the sale of dual-use technology, non-U.S. origin weaponry, military intelligence, Special Operations training, and direct involvement in warfare against Iran.

This fact isn't exactly secret, new or in doubt.

Nor is it relevant to Catfish's claim that we sold them ALL his WMD.

Originally Posted by JU_88

My mistake, it was approx 400 vets and 'thousands' of supporters. Anyway keep in mind Paul still got more donations from military personell than any of other candidates did. And that cam for Your media sources, not from any of that foreign muck.

A mix of several hundred vets and supporters was the non partisan tally. That's not very many from a group of Americans numbering in the tens of millions. Nor does it prove that those who did march were real veterans either.

Why should we believe anything anyone says?. Do you have a track record of being 100% right on every subject in GT? You are right sometimes but not always, nobody is.

Exactly that's why I don't lecture foreigners on what is happening in their own country whereas you seem to make a habit of it.

[JU_88]

Originally Posted by August

Exactly that's why I don't lecture foreigners on what is happening in their own country whereas you seem to make a habit of it.

Ok and what about this thread? Weren't you just implying that the WMDs in Iraq were real and linking us to a non-US news source? How do you know there are no Iraqis reading this forum ?

[MH]

[August]

Originally Posted by JU_88

Ok and what about this thread? Weren't you just implying that the WMDs in Iraq were real and linking us to a non-US news source? How do you know there are no Iraqis reading this forum ?

If there are they hardly need a Brit to do their arguing for them.

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by August

Nor is it relevant to Catfish's claim that we sold them ALL his WMD.

It's very relevant to your question that implied that we didn't supply them with anything, and then your later claim that it was on a small scale and not under the auspices of the government and that the only thing we gave them was "some Anthrax samples as part of a vaccine development program."

Or you can try and narrow the question so far down so that you can claim that you're right and everything else is irrelevant - which is exactly what you're trying to do.

[August]

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

It's very relevant to your question that implied that we didn't supply them with anything, and then your later claim that it was on a small scale and not under the auspices of the government.

I implied no such thing. I simply asked for evidence to back up his assertion that the United States Government sold Saddam ALL his weapons of mass destruction. If that somehow equals economic aid and the rest of it then I submit you are letting your usual bias affect your reading ability.