Who should vote in the US? - Page 3

MaddogK · 07-12-12, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Codz

I would allow everyone to vote. That includes anarchists, communists, and religious zealots. Regardless of how stupid, hateful, or ignorant their beliefs are, they deserve to voice them in free and fair elections. What happens when we start limiting voting rights? Are we going to start issuing "free speech licenses"? Are some people not smart enough to talk freely? The decisions of elected officials affect everyone in this country. That is why everyone needs to have their voice heard. I don't care how stupid, misinformed, or ignorant you or I think their candidate of choice is. We have to work to make people better informed the right way,but DO NOT start limiting their rights because YOU think they are not fit to vote. This nation was formed on the basis of everyone having a say in the matters of government. Not only the people that you or I deem "fit" to vote.

Citizens have the right to own firearms, but I can't think of anywhere I can legally buy a gun or ammo without an I.D.
Anyone can exercise their privilege to drive but I can't think of any state that doesn't require you to surrender your drivers I.D. (license) to a police officer to prove who you are and that you have the states blessing to operate a motor vehicle.
Apparently anyone can vote without proving they are entitled to that right, that the right hasn't been rescinded to them, or that they are who they claim to be.

Imagine if you were to replace 'vote' in your posting with 'owning a gun', without limits. Imagine "anarchists, communists, and religious zealots. Regardless of how stupid, hateful, or ignorant their beliefs are" walking around armed. Is this the world you'd want to pass on to your kids ?

breadcatcher101 · 07-12-12, 07:49 PM

Interesting when Holder gave his speech to the NAACP everyone had to show a photo ID.

Codz · 07-12-12, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by MaddogK

Citizens have the right to own firearms, but I can't think of anywhere I can legally buy a gun or ammo without an I.D.
Anyone can exercise their privilege to drive but I can't think of any state that doesn't require you to surrender your drivers I.D. (license) to a police officer to prove who you are and that you have the states blessing to operate a motor vehicle.
Apparently anyone can vote without proving they are entitled to that right, that the right hasn't been rescinded to them, or that they are who they claim to be.

Imagine if you were to replace 'vote' in your posting with 'owning a gun', without limits. Imagine "anarchists, communists, and religious zealots. Regardless of how stupid, hateful, or ignorant their beliefs are" walking around armed. Is this the world you'd want to pass on to your kids ?

The right to vote and the right to bear arms are two completely different things. That's like if I said,"If we give gays the right to marry, we give them the right to murder."

If you go out and shoot someone, you will be arrested. If a politician makes a stupid choice that leads to a nuclear war, we all suffer. That is why everyone deserves a vote. Unless you plan on building fallout shelters for those who didn't get a "voting license".

wellsronald18 · 07-13-12, 08:30 AM

Ultimately we have to choose our leader wisely, so voting is very important as there is no point in blaming any political parties.

MaddogK · 07-13-12, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Codz

The right to vote and the right to bear arms are two completely different things. That's like if I said,"If we give gays the right to marry, we give them the right to murder."

If you go out and shoot someone, you will be arrested. If a politician makes a stupid choice that leads to a nuclear war, we all suffer. That is why everyone deserves a vote. Unless you plan on building fallout shelters for those who didn't get a "voting license".

Are you for real ?

Rockstar · 07-13-12, 01:45 PM

Who should get to vote?

All white anglo males 21 years of age or older. Women should be home cooking a meal so the man has something to eat when he returns home from the polling centers. All others should be working in the fields. Ferners can enter the country but only to clean a house or mow lawns.

JU_88 · 07-13-12, 03:11 PM

Just let the Libertarians vote for Gary Johnson and stick everyone else in FEMA camps until the election is over (Since they need to be protected from themselves anyway)

Walla, America Fixed (apart from the existing defecit).

Sailor Steve · 07-13-12, 04:18 PM

I think everybody in the country should vote. Twice. Three times if they're dead.

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Originally Posted by JU_88

Walla

Did you perchance mean "voilà"?

Ducimus · 07-13-12, 04:29 PM

Last time I voted was for George W's first term. I was expecting the son to be more like the father. Since then, whoever it is, whatever he's done, don't blame me, I didn't vote for him.

JU_88 · 07-13-12, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Did you perchance mean "voilà"?

Probabaly - Mr Spell check Steve

Sailor Steve · 07-13-12, 04:55 PM

It's not the spelling. It's the knowing what the word means. "Walla" isn't even a word, unless you're visiting Washington state, and then you need to double down.

Codz · 07-13-12, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Ducimus

Last time I voted was for George W's first term. I was expecting the son to be more like the father. Since then, whoever it is, whatever he's done, don't blame me, I didn't vote for him.

W's father was one of the worst Presidents we ever had! His son faithfully followed in his legacy of idiocy... Oh, and if you don't vote, but can, you have no right to complain about politics.

Sailor Steve · 07-13-12, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Codz

Oh, and if you don't vote, but can, you have no right to complain about politics.

Wow, how many times have I heard that misguided adage? Until they put in a box that says "None Of The Above" I have every right to complain, no matter who I vote for, or don't vote for.

Ducimus · 07-13-12, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Codz

W's father was one of the worst Presidents we ever had! His son faithfully followed in his legacy of idiocy... Oh, and if you don't vote, but can, you have no right to complain about politics.

"I don't vote because I believe if you vote, you have no right to complain. People like to twist that around, I know. They say: "Well, if you don't vote, you have no right to complain"; but where's the logic in that? If you vote and you elect dishonest, incompetent people and they get into office and screw everything up... well, you are responsible for what they have done. You caused the problem; you voted them in; you have no right to complain. I, on the other hand, who did not vote, who did not vote, who in fact did not even leave the house on election day, am in no way responsible for what these people have done and have every right to complain as long as I want about the mess you created that I had nothing to do with. " - Carlin

JU_88 · 07-14-12, 04:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Ducimus

"I don't vote because I believe if you vote, you have no right to complain. People like to twist that around, I know. They say: "Well, if you don't vote, you have no right to complain"; but where's the logic in that? If you vote and you elect dishonest, incompetent people and they get into office and screw everything up... well, you are responsible for what they have done. You caused the problem; you voted them in; you have no right to complain. I, on the other hand, who did not vote, who did not vote, who in fact did not even leave the house on election day, am in no way responsible for what these people have done and have every right to complain as long as I want about the mess you created that I had nothing to do with. " - Carlin

You should Vote Ducimus, plenty of other options besides D and R, they wont win a majority, but if enough peeple do it......

07-13-12, 04:55 PM	#41
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	It's not the spelling. It's the knowing what the word means. "Walla" isn't even a word, unless you're visiting Washington state, and then you need to double down. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

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breadcatcher101 Captain Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Southeastern USA Posts: 546 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Interesting when Holder gave his speech to the NAACP everyone had to show a photo ID.

07-13-12, 08:30 AM	#34
wellsronald18 Swabbie Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 6 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Ultimately we have to choose our leader wisely, so voting is very important as there is no point in blaming any political parties.

07-13-12, 01:45 PM	#36
Rockstar In the Brig Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Zendia Bar & Grill Posts: 12,614 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Who should get to vote? All white anglo males 21 years of age or older. Women should be home cooking a meal so the man has something to eat when he returns home from the polling centers. All others should be working in the fields. Ferners can enter the country but only to clean a house or mow lawns.

07-13-12, 03:11 PM	#37
JU_88 Silent Hunter Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: UK Posts: 3,803 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	Just let the Libertarians vote for Gary Johnson and stick everyone else in FEMA camps until the election is over (Since they need to be protected from themselves anyway) Walla, America Fixed (apart from the existing defecit).

07-13-12, 04:29 PM	#39
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	Last time I voted was for George W's first term. I was expecting the son to be more like the father. Since then, whoever it is, whatever he's done, don't blame me, I didn't vote for him.