[REL] Run Silent, Run Deep - The Campaign - Page 142

Roger Dodger · 05-13-12, 12:38 AM

Whatever happened to the Sampans and Fishing Fleets? I used to see them all the time, but haven't seen any for quite some time. They make a nice break from the endless patrolling around an empty patrol zone, and gives the deck gun crew some practice.

Is there a way to put them back into the game without messing up the entire campaign layer?

Good Hunting!

Bubblehead1980 · 05-13-12, 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mister_Spok

Hey, no offence to lurker of so, it's just a question

I'm currently reading Rosco T. "US submarine warfare in WW2" (or something like that, because I read it in russian translation), and I want to add more immersion to the game by going through as many major battles as I can

P.S. Nope, I doubt it was THE task force that kicked ABDA's butt, it only had one LC and few DD's

There are plenty of battles and tf's in RSRD , in much detail.I just witnessed and participated in the Battle of Savo Island in August 1942, all the right groups were there, even then air attack occured on August 7 42 in response to us landings.I also just sank the Taiho at the battle of the philippine sea.They are in their historically correct places, do some research you should be able to find the major engagements.That does not work, use the mission editor and find what your looking for in the campaign files, then get the coordinates.I do not do this(I did for Savo Island, wanted to see where I could sit to observe and did end up sinking one cruiser with torpedoes to help out) if you still can not find them, PM me with what battle you are looking for, I will give you some map coordinates to be at so you are likely to encounter different IJN forces.

My current career is in October 1942, the Battle of Santa Cruz Islands is in RSRD, US and IJN fleets are recreated pretty accurately there, so going to put myself in the area, hopefully see the US air attacks on the IJN carriers, maybe get a shot at a big ship myself, rescue a few pilots who have to bail or ditch.Should be fun.

Roger Dodger · 05-13-12, 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mister_Spok

Hey, no offence to lurker of so, it's just a question

I'm currently reading Rosco T. "US submarine warfare in WW2" (or something like that, because I read it in russian translation), and I want to add more immersion to the game by going through as many major battles as I can

P.S. Nope, I doubt it was THE task force that kicked ABDA's butt, it only had one LC and few DD's

Mr._Spok:
Please read my post of a couple of pages back: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...postcount=2094

This was the Battle of Tassaforanga, and as noted, I sort of stumbled into it. Last campaign I tried to find the Battle of Coral Sea, and utterly failed. I had the times/positions of all participant units, and I was pretty close to having my sub in the right positions for the Battle. Still - nothing! As also noted, for the Battle of Midway, I saw lots of planes zooming around and many crashing into the sea, but never saw any naval units.

Lurker may have indeed inserted some randomness into the times/positions, so getting into a battle may be a bit of a challenge. When you do manage to join a battle - WHAT A RUSH!! The Bridge View and Free Camera views are AWESOME! If you manage to get into battle, try to pick off stragglers or 'wounded' IJN units. The way the AI seems to work, if you attract the attention of 6 Battle Line DDs, they may forget about the battle AND GO AFTER YOU!

Good Hunting

Mister_Spok · 05-14-12, 02:04 AM

Thanks Bubblehead, Roger.

My career is on May 1942. And I missed the battle of Coral Sea, because my 4th patrol on my S-33 (cheers!) started May 18, but I hope to make it to Savo Island battle on my next patrol.

And I really don't want to ruin my game by peeking in campaign files.

utops · 05-14-12, 08:56 PM

With some problems with naked TMO 2.5 just covered it on top with RSRD.
This is normal that escort shell my sub before i can't even see them?
Damn it i just grow some love for sh4 but every biggest mods are damaged somehow.
TMO 2.5 Tambor bug and after this i stucked with my Gato in mid 1942 despite i choosed Begining of 1943 at start campaign in Brisbane.
RSRD so far AI seems to be dumb and def,but on surface they can spot me before i can see them... in the evening.
I see happy people here, telling jokes around,but did you guys actualy play this game,or just you here habitually?
I really don't want back to SH3 because i know it good already.
TMO 2.2 is free from Bugs?

Bubblehead1980 · 05-14-12, 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by utops

With some problems with naked TMO 2.5 just covered it on top with RSRD.
This is normal that escort shell my sub before i can't even see them?
Damn it i just grow some love for sh4 but every biggest mods are damaged somehow.
TMO 2.5 Tambor bug and after this i stucked with my Gato in mid 1942 despite i choosed Begining of 1943 at start campaign in Brisbane.
RSRD so far AI seems to be dumb and def,but on surface they can spot me before i can see them... in the evening.
I see happy people here, telling jokes around,but did you guys actualy play this game,or just you here habitually?
I really don't want back to SH3 because i know it good already.
TMO 2.2 is free from Bugs?

Yea, RSRD's default visual sensors are a bit too strong, as is their radar.Tater made some great fixes I use, I found RSRD almost unplayble without them for me as escorts were spotting me at ten miles lol .Ill see if I can find the link.....

Bubblehead1980 · 05-14-12, 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by utops

With some problems with naked TMO 2.5 just covered it on top with RSRD.
This is normal that escort shell my sub before i can't even see them?
Damn it i just grow some love for sh4 but every biggest mods are damaged somehow.
TMO 2.5 Tambor bug and after this i stucked with my Gato in mid 1942 despite i choosed Begining of 1943 at start campaign in Brisbane.
RSRD so far AI seems to be dumb and def,but on surface they can spot me before i can see them... in the evening.
I see happy people here, telling jokes around,but did you guys actualy play this game,or just you here habitually?
I really don't want back to SH3 because i know it good already.
TMO 2.2 is free from Bugs?

Yea, RSRD's default visual sensors are a bit too strong, as is their radar.Tater made some great fixes I use, I found RSRD almost unplayble without them for me as escorts were spotting me at ten miles lol .Ill see if I can find the link.....

Edit:This link has a link to the fixes, enable after JSGME.They are all needed, esp the visuals, the radar and the sonar fix for Type AB escorts, or the subchasers wont have active sonar.http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...97&postcount=4

Bubblehead1980 · 05-14-12, 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by utops

With some problems with naked TMO 2.5 just covered it on top with RSRD.
This is normal that escort shell my sub before i can't even see them?
Damn it i just grow some love for sh4 but every biggest mods are damaged somehow.
TMO 2.5 Tambor bug and after this i stucked with my Gato in mid 1942 despite i choosed Begining of 1943 at start campaign in Brisbane.
RSRD so far AI seems to be dumb and def,but on surface they can spot me before i can see them... in the evening.
I see happy people here, telling jokes around,but did you guys actualy play this game,or just you here habitually?
I really don't want back to SH3 because i know it good already.
TMO 2.2 is free from Bugs?

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...97&postcount=4

and yes we play Sh 4 with TMo RSRD.They are amazing mods, RSRD has mostly historically accurate traffic, has the major battles etc. The AI is plenty tough esp in 44 and when the Japanese ASW became better.42 and early 43 are somewhat easier mostly.Don't give up, You wil enjoy it, just need to figure it out, as its not exactly simple.

Mister_Spok · 05-15-12, 05:10 AM

Whoah! Great fixes, never knew about them, though I use TMO+RSRDC for some 2 or 3 months! Thank you.

utops · 05-15-12, 01:49 PM

Thx Bubblehead1980.
You save the day for me.
Those patches are just precious, finally i can night atack convoys and every thing seems to be working as intended - in my opinion of course.
Imprerial navy just lost heavy cruiser near Singapore and they never see it coming. BLAM goes ammo storage causing my old gaming rig have a heart atack for a while.

Bubblehead1980 · 05-15-12, 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by utops

Thx Bubblehead1980.
You save the day for me.
Those patches are just precious, finally i can night atack convoys and every thing seems to be working as intended - in my opinion of course.
Imprerial navy just lost heavy cruiser near Singapore and they never see it coming. BLAM goes ammo storage causing my old gaming rig have a heart atack for a while.

No problem, thank Tater for making them, really does save RSRD.Just wait until you can actually make a night surface attack on a radar equipped convoy as US subs did many times in real life bc IJN radar was not effective against subs for the most part.

Mister_Spok · 05-16-12, 03:03 AM

I have a question about career.

Yesterday I finished my 4th patrol. "They" proposed me to take commant of a shiny new Sargo-class, but I rejected it (I love my sugar boat, especially with brand new SJ radar!

), though now I have an option to transfer to Aleutians.

Now, will I have an opportunity to transfer to Pearl, 'cause I plan to get my hans on Balao-class?

stanger · 05-16-12, 03:29 AM

I think there must be ~4 or so patrols between transfers. So, if youre asking whether you will be able to go to Pearl once you accept transfer to Alaska, then yes, but after ~4 patrols.
That how it worked in TMO, in RSRD, which im playing too right now, it may be a bit different, but the difference should only be in number of patrols between transfers.

Bubblehead1980 · 05-16-12, 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mister_Spok

I have a question about career.

Yesterday I finished my 4th patrol. "They" proposed me to take commant of a shiny new Sargo-class, but I rejected it (I love my sugar boat, especially with brand new SJ radar!

), though now I have an option to transfer to Aleutians.

Now, will I have an opportunity to transfer to Pearl, 'cause I plan to get my hans on Balao-class?

I doubt it since RSRD works on a historically based(well mostly, think some sources used may have be incomplete or slightly in error but its mostly accurate) flotilla system.Since S-Boats never operated our of Pearl except for training during the war(as far as I can tell, place their range was a major limitation) I doubt you will be able to operate out of Pearl in an S boat in RSRD.I have an S boat career going and while deployed out of Brisbane in October 42, a message flashed that all S-Boats shift home port to Dutch Harbor effective 1 November 1942, I had to travel all the way from the solomons to Dutch Harbor(refueled at Midway) in order to to end my patrol after a long, intense patrol.Want a Balao you will prob just have to start a new career.However, if you hang onto your S Boat until begin of 44 you might luck up and get one or a Gato, not sure.I imagine S-Boats are withdrawn from combat in RSRD as they were in RL.

Mister_Spok · 05-16-12, 08:27 AM

So I see. From you words I tink it was better chance for me to get Sargo?

But there is only 2 patrols to next rank and refit (as big brown book in capn's office says). So will it make sence if I stick to my S-33 for some two more months, and then get Sargo AND transfer to Pearl? Not to mention that Sargo is a top sub for Asiatic Fleet, i think.

And I'm well aware about S-boats range limitations

but when I tried to accept the offer for Sargo-sub I noticed that it has no option to install SJ radar, and S-boat had it.

05-13-12, 12:38 AM	#2116
Roger Dodger Sonar Guy Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Oregon, USA Posts: 384 Downloads: 74 Uploads: 0	Sampans and Fishing Fleets Whatever happened to the Sampans and Fishing Fleets? I used to see them all the time, but haven't seen any for quite some time. They make a nice break from the endless patrolling around an empty patrol zone, and gives the deck gun crew some practice. Is there a way to put them back into the game without messing up the entire campaign layer? Good Hunting! __________________

05-15-12, 05:10 AM	#2124
Mister_Spok Seaman Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Ukraine Posts: 34 Downloads: 87 Uploads: 0	Whoah! Great fixes, never knew about them, though I use TMO+RSRDC for some 2 or 3 months! Thank you. Last edited by Mister_Spok; 05-15-12 at 05:48 AM.

05-14-12, 02:04 AM	#2119
Mister_Spok Seaman Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Ukraine Posts: 34 Downloads: 87 Uploads: 0	Thanks Bubblehead, Roger. My career is on May 1942. And I missed the battle of Coral Sea, because my 4th patrol on my S-33 (cheers!) started May 18, but I hope to make it to Savo Island battle on my next patrol. And I really don't want to ruin my game by peeking in campaign files.

05-14-12, 08:56 PM	#2120
utops Planesman Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Gdańsk,Poland Posts: 197 Downloads: 202 Uploads: 0	With some problems with naked TMO 2.5 just covered it on top with RSRD. This is normal that escort shell my sub before i can't even see them? Damn it i just grow some love for sh4 but every biggest mods are damaged somehow. TMO 2.5 Tambor bug and after this i stucked with my Gato in mid 1942 despite i choosed Begining of 1943 at start campaign in Brisbane. RSRD so far AI seems to be dumb and def,but on surface they can spot me before i can see them... in the evening. I see happy people here, telling jokes around,but did you guys actualy play this game,or just you here habitually? I really don't want back to SH3 because i know it good already. TMO 2.2 is free from Bugs?

05-15-12, 01:49 PM	#2125
utops Planesman Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Gdańsk,Poland Posts: 197 Downloads: 202 Uploads: 0	Thx Bubblehead1980. You save the day for me. Those patches are just precious, finally i can night atack convoys and every thing seems to be working as intended - in my opinion of course. Imprerial navy just lost heavy cruiser near Singapore and they never see it coming. BLAM goes ammo storage causing my old gaming rig have a heart atack for a while.

05-16-12, 03:03 AM	#2127
Mister_Spok Seaman Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Ukraine Posts: 34 Downloads: 87 Uploads: 0	I have a question about career. Yesterday I finished my 4th patrol. "They" proposed me to take commant of a shiny new Sargo-class, but I rejected it (I love my sugar boat, especially with brand new SJ radar! ), though now I have an option to transfer to Aleutians. Now, will I have an opportunity to transfer to Pearl, 'cause I plan to get my hans on Balao-class?

05-16-12, 03:29 AM	#2128
stanger Engineer Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Poland Posts: 200 Downloads: 84 Uploads: 0	I think there must be ~4 or so patrols between transfers. So, if youre asking whether you will be able to go to Pearl once you accept transfer to Alaska, then yes, but after ~4 patrols. That how it worked in TMO, in RSRD, which im playing too right now, it may be a bit different, but the difference should only be in number of patrols between transfers.

05-16-12, 08:27 AM	#2130
Mister_Spok Seaman Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Ukraine Posts: 34 Downloads: 87 Uploads: 0	So I see. From you words I tink it was better chance for me to get Sargo? But there is only 2 patrols to next rank and refit (as big brown book in capn's office says). So will it make sence if I stick to my S-33 for some two more months, and then get Sargo AND transfer to Pearl? Not to mention that Sargo is a top sub for Asiatic Fleet, i think. And I'm well aware about S-boats range limitations but when I tried to accept the offer for Sargo-sub I noticed that it has no option to install SJ radar, and S-boat had it.