[REL] Run Silent, Run Deep - The Campaign

[Mister_Spok]

I have a question about career.

Yesterday I finished my 4th patrol. "They" proposed me to take commant of a shiny new Sargo-class, but I rejected it (I love my sugar boat, especially with brand new SJ radar! ), though now I have an option to transfer to Aleutians.

Now, will I have an opportunity to transfer to Pearl, 'cause I plan to get my hans on Balao-class?

[stanger]

I think there must be ~4 or so patrols between transfers. So, if youre asking whether you will be able to go to Pearl once you accept transfer to Alaska, then yes, but after ~4 patrols.
That how it worked in TMO, in RSRD, which im playing too right now, it may be a bit different, but the difference should only be in number of patrols between transfers.

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by Mister_Spok

I have a question about career.

Yesterday I finished my 4th patrol. "They" proposed me to take commant of a shiny new Sargo-class, but I rejected it (I love my sugar boat, especially with brand new SJ radar! ), though now I have an option to transfer to Aleutians.

Now, will I have an opportunity to transfer to Pearl, 'cause I plan to get my hans on Balao-class?

I doubt it since RSRD works on a historically based(well mostly, think some sources used may have be incomplete or slightly in error but its mostly accurate) flotilla system.Since S-Boats never operated our of Pearl except for training during the war(as far as I can tell, place their range was a major limitation) I doubt you will be able to operate out of Pearl in an S boat in RSRD.I have an S boat career going and while deployed out of Brisbane in October 42, a message flashed that all S-Boats shift home port to Dutch Harbor effective 1 November 1942, I had to travel all the way from the solomons to Dutch Harbor(refueled at Midway) in order to to end my patrol after a long, intense patrol.Want a Balao you will prob just have to start a new career.However, if you hang onto your S Boat until begin of 44 you might luck up and get one or a Gato, not sure.I imagine S-Boats are withdrawn from combat in RSRD as they were in RL.

[Mister_Spok]

So I see. From you words I tink it was better chance for me to get Sargo?

But there is only 2 patrols to next rank and refit (as big brown book in capn's office says). So will it make sence if I stick to my S-33 for some two more months, and then get Sargo AND transfer to Pearl? Not to mention that Sargo is a top sub for Asiatic Fleet, i think.

And I'm well aware about S-boats range limitations but when I tried to accept the offer for Sargo-sub I noticed that it has no option to install SJ radar, and S-boat had it.

[Roger Dodger]

Originally Posted by Mister_Spok

So I see. From you words I tink it was better chance for me to get Sargo?

And I'm well aware about S-boats range limitations but when I tried to accept the offer for Sargo-sub I noticed that it has no option to install SJ radar, and S-boat had it.

I've noticed that NOT being offered SJ (Surface Search) RADAR when upgrading to the next better sub is pretty standard. You will usually be offered SJ RADAR after your first patrol in your new sub. That probably simulates 'production problems' in the real world. Not real sure about that when upgrading from Gato to Balao. Balaos may come 'stock' with RADARs and upgraded SONAR capability since they were available much later in the war.

Also, in RL, early SJ RADAR was kind of 'funky' - subject to unreliability - which is NOT simulated in the game. Trained personnel was also a problem early in the war since RADAR was pretty new technology. The Radarman had not only be well trained in use, but able to 'fix' the new technology if problems occurred. RADAR 'A' school was at least six months, so a shortage of personnel was also a problem, and probably explains NOT getting the SJ RADAR upon upgrading.

The switch from S-Boat to Sargo would probably be a 'wise' choice on your part. Personnaly, I always make the switch. I love the S-Boat, but they were, in reality, very much obsolete when WWII broke out - most had been built in 1925 or before, and were 'never' developed as a true Fleet Boat. They were used in combat roles during the early part of the war because that's all we had that were operational. As soon as they could be replaced, they were, but maintained their use as training subs, and patrolling the Panama Canal until the end of the war.

God Bless Electric Boat!

[Mister_Spok]

Roger Dodger, mentioned about sampan fleet earlier in this topic. I would also like to know if it's possible to bring them back?

[Roger Dodger]

Originally Posted by Mister_Spok

Roger Dodger, mentioned about sampan fleet earlier in this topic. I would also like to know if it's possible to bring them back?

I just started a new campaign. I had to upgrade TMO from 2.2 to 2.5 due to NOT getting a Deck Gun for my Gato-class boat. I also installed RSRDC and the RSRDC Pre-Pearl Harbor editions and some other 'RSRDC fixes'.

Mid-Patrol Report:
Departed Manila in S-27 on Dec. 1, 1941. Patrol Objective: Scouting, Luzon Strait south of Formosa.
Dec. 4: Spotted large freighter south of Formosa - Range 6500 yds, Course 270, Speed 8 kts. Shadowed freighter for 6 hours, no action.
Dec. 6: Patrol Lingayen Gulf - No contacts
Dec. 7: EXECUTE UNRESTRICTED SUBMARINE OPS VS JAPAN. Conduct Anti-Shipping ops along Japan-Luzon Straits-Singapore shipping lanes S of Okinawa.
Dec. 8: Sighted Hakusika Maru, 8178t, Action-Submerged, Daylight, Range 1200 yds. fired 3 torpedoes -1 miss, two hit for heavy damage. Fired 4th torpedo for hit and sinking. 128E/24N (S of Ryukyu Islands/Okinawa)
Dec. 10: Sighted Zinbu Maru, 5331t, Action-Surface Night, Range 6500 yds, increased speed to Flank, fired two torpedoes at extreme range of 3000 yds, neither reached target. Target spotted us at 2500 yds, and began evasion, opened up on us with small arms. Commenced Deck Gun action at 2000 yds. Fired two torpedoes at 1500 and 1200 yds - one hit for damage. Sank target with Deck Gun - 45 shells expended. 120E/28N (S of Kayushu main home island)
Dec. 16: Anti-Shipping ops along Japan-Luzon-Singapore shipping lanes, S of Okinawa.
Dec. 18: Sighted fleet of 6 Junks, 50t ea. Action-Surface Deck Gun. Sank all 6 Junks with gunfire - 110 shells expended. Close in-shore 124E/23N
Dec. 24: Returning Manila for refuel/rearm.
Dec. 28: Contact Report: N of Lingayen Gulf, two freighters escorted by three minesweepers, Range: 10,500 yds, Course 320, speed 11 kts., daylight. No action other than contact report - could not close to solution. 120N/17E.
Dec. 29: Refuel/Rearm Manila. Shift base to Surabaya, Java.
Dec. 31: Enroute Surabaya, Java - 122E/12N - W of Palawan, 13,989t total (Not bad for an S-Boat!).

Note the Dec. 18 report. A fleet of 6 Junks! So the Junks/Sampans/Fishing trawlers are there - I just wasn't close to them. They will be close inshore around the Japanese Home Islands and possessions. Perhaps I haven't seen any during other campaigns because my patrol areas usually didn't include those areas (Asiatic Fleet Ops).

I won't know for awhile yet if I get a Deck Gun for a Gato - I'm still in my S-Boat very early in the war. I don't expect to get a Gato for at least a year (game time). S-Boats were always equipped with a Deck Gun, but it got lost during upgrading.

Good Hunting

PS: Remembering the Officers and Men still on Eternal Patrol this Memorial Day. God Bless Electric Boat!

[Armistead]

Never had a problem getting a deckgun for a Gato playing 2.2, if fact that's what I play.