First impressions...two years too late

croman81 · 04-11-12, 10:04 PM

Bravo!

That really is an excellent review. This is the reason I didn't play this game for 2 years waiting for the amazing modders at subsim to try and salvage a game. And let me tell you... I admire your patience with the stock version. I couldn't do it. That game was a prime example of released crap.
I am currently using 47 mods to make the game work. And it does work wonderfully. I like immersion, not all are needed for the game to work - many mods add new radio stations or make the graphics even better... But, it is incredible that you need tons of mods, hours and hours of modding effort to make the game playable.
Once you mod the game and see it transform in front of you, like I've seen during the last 4 days, since I've started building my mod soup... you'll fully appreciate the amazing guys here at subsim. And you'll feel righteously angry at those idiots who released a crappy skeleton of a game.
Talking about rants... well, it seems to be the new trend (or tendenz, as one German politician rants in his speech on my sub radio) among sim developers. Have you seen the damage they've done to Microsoft's Flight Simulator?
Play a little, get angry - then mod it until it works. Properly modded, it's probably the best Silent Hunter (I've only played SH3-5). Good hunting!

finchOU · 04-12-12, 05:09 PM

Sooo.. what is a HUD in SH5 speak (search rendered nothing)? In aviation speak its a Heads Up Display (which I miss!!

).....I see there is a key for it ...shift Z i think...but nothing happened when i pressed it.

Getting more angry the more I play by the way....

.....its pretty....but my new computer cant arrive soon enough so I can start MODing. Speaking of which...do Crew get more functionality with any of the MODs?

Sailor Steve · 04-12-12, 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by finchOU

Sooo.. what is a HUD in SH5 speak (search rendered nothing)? In aviation speak its a Heads Up Display (which I miss!!

).....I see there is a key for it ...shift Z i think...but nothing happened when i pressed it.

That's exactly what it is in the game - all the information stuff that is on the screen to tell you what's going on - the dials, the messages, the other stuff on the screen that you turn off so you can take screenshots.

tat501 · 04-13-12, 05:36 PM

I agree Finchou 100%. I can't actually play this stock game. I had a hard drive crash recently, reinstalled the game as stock (I normally play with about 40 mods) and realised I'd forgotten how crappy it actually was.

Stick with it though, as Neal and the others have said the modders have made this game great (don't take this as spam telling you to mod! Ive read the thread and know you're going to when you get the chance!)

I just hope (against all reasonable hope) that someone who worked on this game, or someone from ubisoft generally, or in fact any game developer who makes sims reads this thread to see what a mess they've made of the whole genre in recent years.

That said, they already know and don't care - they'll sell more games with eye candy than realism as everyone here knows but I don't want to go over well trodden ground again by going down that route...

finchOU · 04-14-12, 09:17 PM

More observations.... Still on first patrol.

I've seem to have run aground after diving...even tho my Depth under Keel reads out 20-18 meters....hmmm?? can hear hull scraping or damage sounds...go to the periscope to look through the ridiculously clear water to see I am indeed very close if not on the bottom.

I think I mention before...but my mouse is acting weird. Its freaking out aka scolling too fast in FPS mode....but it has a slight annoying lag in the rest of the game.

I'm mention before at the lack of bearing info in the binocs...which I love since thats how it was IRL......but then you have that stupid immersion killing pop up nav map that you always have to close when switching views.

Crew point to nothing and dont use thier binocs.... not being able to dive while on deck is retarded...and could late lead to being killed due to the wasted time on the surface.

Just spotted a convoy of at least 7-8 ships in Sep 39 right off the eastern coast of england (north sea)...after a day eariler I attacked an unescorted fast convoy of 4 ships. But I have yet to run across lone merchants ...which was what historically what happened early on in the war.

I again dove into the crew management screen and almost vomited...again. Total Reveal, increase torp speed, ...need I say more? I still dont know how moral increases and decreases work. I talk to the crew...but they never have anything new to say......for wanting to make this a FPS...they could have added more dialoge..one would think. I'm proud of your rascals too #2! But maybe lets talk about how nice your wives figure is....since ..you know we are sailors and whats on our mind.

I have no radio traffic reports or anything like that....am I missing something? I'm thinking I would hear my Radio dude would relay SOS messages or stuff like that...have not heard anything yet.

When I radio a status report to BDU...does it auto reply as soon as I click the button? I remember getting an hour or two delay from hearing back from them in other sims. Maybe i'm just missing something from the whole radio room.

Found the clock or stopwatch or chrometer (sp). it does the job...but takes way too much of the screen for simple stuff like transiting.

lastly ....no periscope raise lower sound when out side of the veiw in the control room.

I can see where they were going with this sim....as far as the FPS stuff...but its incomplete...and too gamey to really add alot of immersion. It takes about 10 mins to get bored with the crew...and there doesnt seem to be any leadership issues you need to take care of as a CO. Maybe #2 does a great job! haha......other stuff really could have used the time in my humble opinion. All honesty...its seems about a couple months early for release with no honest to goodness testing or nit picky historical oversight. Obviously the Moders took over...but they really shouldnt have to fix stupid stuff... I would say right now the biggest disappointment is the lack of TDC from a basic uboat standpoint.

Thats it for now....maybe some more if I find more.

finchOU · 04-23-12, 05:36 PM

After a busy week of not playing...my new computer arrived. Installed stock again on the new system to look at the stock graphics once they are maxed out. Pretty cool looking. Now on to the MODS!!

Harmsway! · 04-25-12, 07:06 AM

Outstanding. Now tell us what you think of the mods.

misha1967 · 04-12-12, 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by croman81

Talking about rants... well, it seems to be the new trend (or tendenz, as one German politician rants in his speech on my sub radio)

That would be der Doktor Goebbels, singlehandedly taking credit for rescuing the German radio (modestly, of course)

Boy, was that clown long-winded!

Quote:

Speaking of which...do Crew get more functionality with any of the MODs?

Mighty Fine Crew Mod will take care of that for you, yes!

04-14-12, 09:17 PM	#5
finchOU Samurai Navy Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 571 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 0	More observations.... Still on first patrol. I've seem to have run aground after diving...even tho my Depth under Keel reads out 20-18 meters....hmmm?? can hear hull scraping or damage sounds...go to the periscope to look through the ridiculously clear water to see I am indeed very close if not on the bottom. I think I mention before...but my mouse is acting weird. Its freaking out aka scolling too fast in FPS mode....but it has a slight annoying lag in the rest of the game. I'm mention before at the lack of bearing info in the binocs...which I love since thats how it was IRL......but then you have that stupid immersion killing pop up nav map that you always have to close when switching views. Crew point to nothing and dont use thier binocs.... not being able to dive while on deck is retarded...and could late lead to being killed due to the wasted time on the surface. Just spotted a convoy of at least 7-8 ships in Sep 39 right off the eastern coast of england (north sea)...after a day eariler I attacked an unescorted fast convoy of 4 ships. But I have yet to run across lone merchants ...which was what historically what happened early on in the war. I again dove into the crew management screen and almost vomited...again. Total Reveal, increase torp speed, ...need I say more? I still dont know how moral increases and decreases work. I talk to the crew...but they never have anything new to say......for wanting to make this a FPS...they could have added more dialoge..one would think. I'm proud of your rascals too #2! But maybe lets talk about how nice your wives figure is....since ..you know we are sailors and whats on our mind. I have no radio traffic reports or anything like that....am I missing something? I'm thinking I would hear my Radio dude would relay SOS messages or stuff like that...have not heard anything yet. When I radio a status report to BDU...does it auto reply as soon as I click the button? I remember getting an hour or two delay from hearing back from them in other sims. Maybe i'm just missing something from the whole radio room. Found the clock or stopwatch or chrometer (sp). it does the job...but takes way too much of the screen for simple stuff like transiting. lastly ....no periscope raise lower sound when out side of the veiw in the control room. I can see where they were going with this sim....as far as the FPS stuff...but its incomplete...and too gamey to really add alot of immersion. It takes about 10 mins to get bored with the crew...and there doesnt seem to be any leadership issues you need to take care of as a CO. Maybe #2 does a great job! haha......other stuff really could have used the time in my humble opinion. All honesty...its seems about a couple months early for release with no honest to goodness testing or nit picky historical oversight. Obviously the Moders took over...but they really shouldnt have to fix stupid stuff... I would say right now the biggest disappointment is the lack of TDC from a basic uboat standpoint. Thats it for now....maybe some more if I find more. __________________ Intel i7-2700K-3.50GHz, 16 GB RAM, 2 xGTX 560,2GB,SLI,2 TB HD The Wolves of Steel 1.06 The Wolves of Steel 1.06 Update 05c

04-23-12, 05:36 PM	#6
finchOU Samurai Navy Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 571 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 0	After a busy week of not playing...my new computer arrived. Installed stock again on the new system to look at the stock graphics once they are maxed out. Pretty cool looking. Now on to the MODS!! __________________ Intel i7-2700K-3.50GHz, 16 GB RAM, 2 xGTX 560,2GB,SLI,2 TB HD The Wolves of Steel 1.06 The Wolves of Steel 1.06 Update 05c

04-25-12, 07:06 AM	#7
Harmsway! XO Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 400 Downloads: 126 Uploads: 0	Outstanding. Now tell us what you think of the mods. __________________ ----------------------- Gene SH5 Quick Start Guide

04-11-12, 10:04 PM	#1
croman81 Swabbie Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Zagreb, Croatia Posts: 6 Downloads: 40 Uploads: 0	Bravo! That really is an excellent review. This is the reason I didn't play this game for 2 years waiting for the amazing modders at subsim to try and salvage a game. And let me tell you... I admire your patience with the stock version. I couldn't do it. That game was a prime example of released crap. I am currently using 47 mods to make the game work. And it does work wonderfully. I like immersion, not all are needed for the game to work - many mods add new radio stations or make the graphics even better... But, it is incredible that you need tons of mods, hours and hours of modding effort to make the game playable. Once you mod the game and see it transform in front of you, like I've seen during the last 4 days, since I've started building my mod soup... you'll fully appreciate the amazing guys here at subsim. And you'll feel righteously angry at those idiots who released a crappy skeleton of a game. Talking about rants... well, it seems to be the new trend (or tendenz, as one German politician rants in his speech on my sub radio) among sim developers. Have you seen the damage they've done to Microsoft's Flight Simulator? Play a little, get angry - then mod it until it works. Properly modded, it's probably the best Silent Hunter (I've only played SH3-5). Good hunting!

04-12-12, 05:09 PM	#2
finchOU Samurai Navy Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 571 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 0	Sooo.. what is a HUD in SH5 speak (search rendered nothing)? In aviation speak its a Heads Up Display (which I miss!! ).....I see there is a key for it ...shift Z i think...but nothing happened when i pressed it. Getting more angry the more I play by the way.... .....its pretty....but my new computer cant arrive soon enough so I can start MODing. Speaking of which...do Crew get more functionality with any of the MODs? __________________ Intel i7-2700K-3.50GHz, 16 GB RAM, 2 xGTX 560,2GB,SLI,2 TB HD The Wolves of Steel 1.06 The Wolves of Steel 1.06 Update 05c

04-13-12, 05:36 PM	#4
tat501 Helmsman Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: London Posts: 108 Downloads: 275 Uploads: 0	I agree Finchou 100%. I can't actually play this stock game. I had a hard drive crash recently, reinstalled the game as stock (I normally play with about 40 mods) and realised I'd forgotten how crappy it actually was. Stick with it though, as Neal and the others have said the modders have made this game great (don't take this as spam telling you to mod! Ive read the thread and know you're going to when you get the chance!) I just hope (against all reasonable hope) that someone who worked on this game, or someone from ubisoft generally, or in fact any game developer who makes sims reads this thread to see what a mess they've made of the whole genre in recent years. That said, they already know and don't care - they'll sell more games with eye candy than realism as everyone here knows but I don't want to go over well trodden ground again by going down that route...