Depthkeeping during attacks (?)

Harald_Lange · 03-01-12, 05:12 AM

I usually find the track of the target , and plot a course to 5-700m off the track at 90 degrees, and sit there, periscope just under the surface, listening on my hydrophone until the angle is right, then peek and fire at the last moment.

After reading this, it seems what I'm doing is wholly unrealistic.

andwii · 03-01-12, 07:27 AM

ya ive noticed on the boats like IIA that depth keeping at periscope depth is a pain if your not going more then 2 knots, which really isnt all that bad of a speed, its not to loud but it sure is loud enough to give you away in 1942-1943 lol.

u crank · 03-01-12, 07:34 AM

I have often wondered about depth keeping also in regards to realism in SH3/GWX. There are some very detailed explanations of this in Edward Young's great book 'One of Our Submarines'.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/One-Submarin.../dp/1844151069

After reading those sections again I realize that this was not the Captains job. He would tell his officer in charge of this task if the sub was not at the proper depth, but he didn't actually do it himself. This is very well simulated in SH3/GWX. Your helmsman is doing his job very well. No need to yell at him.

Good hunting.

andwii · 03-01-12, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by u crank

I have often wondered about depth keeping also in regards to realism in SH3/GWX. There are some very detailed explanations of this in Edward Young's great book 'One of Our Submarines'.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/One-Submarin.../dp/1844151069

After reading those sections again I realize that this was not the Captains job. He would tell his officer in charge of this task if the sub was not at the proper depth, but he didn't actually do it himself. This is very well simulated in SH3/GWX. Your helmsman is doing his job very well. No need to yell at him.

Good hunting.

wish we could do this more things in SH3, like not having to do the TDC your self, just ordering off the AOB, distance, speed, bearing excreta.

Luno · 03-05-12, 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by u crank

I have often wondered about depth keeping also in regards to realism in SH3/GWX. There are some very detailed explanations of this in Edward Young's great book 'One of Our Submarines'.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/One-Submarin.../dp/1844151069

After reading those sections again I realize that this was not the Captains job. He would tell his officer in charge of this task if the sub was not at the proper depth, but he didn't actually do it himself. This is very well simulated in SH3/GWX. Your helmsman is doing his job very well. No need to yell at him.

I totally agree, but I'm just wondering if the helmsman could actually keep the sub at a specific depth if the sub wasn't moving. I don't necessarily want to do his job, I just want to know if it was necessary to keep moving to help maintain depth.

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wish we could do this more things in SH3, like not having to do the TDC your self, just ordering off the AOB, distance, speed, bearing excreta.

You can turn on the "Weapons Officer" or some other feature in the difficulty menu. He does all the calculations for you, if I remember correctly.

I think it's more rewarding to do it yourself though. However, and I don't mean to boast, I am finding that lining up a shot at "full difficulty" is really easy in this game. At 100% "realism" I've already sunk 8 ships in my career in a Type II (This puts me in the top 7 U-boat aces for the time period).

Sailor Steve · 03-05-12, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Luno

I totally agree, but I'm just wondering if the helmsman could actually keep the sub at a specific depth if the sub wasn't moving. I don't necessarily want to do his job, I just want to know if it was necessary to keep moving to help maintain depth.

Yes it was possible, with a very good man on the pumps. Much easier today with computer controls. On the other hand it requires using the pumps, which make just as much noise as the propellors at flank speed, so even if you had a guy that good it wasn't practical. Moving at two knots is much more effective.

Luno · 03-05-12, 01:36 PM

Thanks for all the help guys. I'll be incorporating this element into my attacks from now on.

03-01-12, 07:34 AM	#3
u crank Old enough to know better Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Prince Edward Island Posts: 11,747 Downloads: 136 Uploads: 0	I have often wondered about depth keeping also in regards to realism in SH3/GWX. There are some very detailed explanations of this in Edward Young's great book 'One of Our Submarines'. http://www.amazon.co.uk/One-Submarin.../dp/1844151069 After reading those sections again I realize that this was not the Captains job. He would tell his officer in charge of this task if the sub was not at the proper depth, but he didn't actually do it himself. This is very well simulated in SH3/GWX. Your helmsman is doing his job very well. No need to yell at him. Good hunting. __________________ “Two possibilities exist: either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.” ― Arthur C. Clarke

03-05-12, 01:36 PM	#7
Luno Ensign Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 234 Downloads: 123 Uploads: 0	Thanks for all the help guys. I'll be incorporating this element into my attacks from now on. __________________ Career: Feb. 13, 1942 "Cpt. Johny Goodwood" Porpoise class: USS Shark, SS-174 Patrols: 2 Victories: 1 Merchants (4519 GRT), 0 Warships (0 GRT), 0 Aircraft Sunk with all hands lost.

03-01-12, 05:12 AM	#1
Harald_Lange Ensign Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: NY Harbour, Periscope depth. Posts: 235 Downloads: 160 Uploads: 0	I usually find the track of the target , and plot a course to 5-700m off the track at 90 degrees, and sit there, periscope just under the surface, listening on my hydrophone until the angle is right, then peek and fire at the last moment. After reading this, it seems what I'm doing is wholly unrealistic.

03-01-12, 07:27 AM	#2
andwii Frogman Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Bridge of U-123 Posts: 300 Downloads: 76 Uploads: 0	ya ive noticed on the boats like IIA that depth keeping at periscope depth is a pain if your not going more then 2 knots, which really isnt all that bad of a speed, its not to loud but it sure is loud enough to give you away in 1942-1943 lol.