SOPA

[antikristuseke]

Here is another good video on the subject

[jumpy]

Seems like every now and then some means of knowledge is created with the aim to give as much access to ordinary people as possible, but is always in direct conflict with the big boys of the day.

Way back when, when all knowledge was the preserve of the church, and it's representatives administered its power in a language, who's teaching was withheld from the common man, and therefore his understanding and (more crucially) his interpretation of the word of god was forbidden, men were killed to prevent the sweeping tide of the printed word and translation into the common tongue, the words of the bible.
Quite simply, the church did all it could to keep its grip on knowledge and power at all costs. How this held back understanding and progress of the great thinkers of the renaissance and others is unknown, but it is reasonable to surmise that ideas and thought could have evolved along certain lines much sooner that they did, were it not for the grip of the church and its narrow view of the status quo.
With the translation of the bible, came education toward the written and spoken word, which in turn gave way to more unorthodox ideas of science and mathematics, physics and philosophy... in short, progress that led to what we are today.

I think the internet and the freedom of knowledge that it represents is no less portentous than the advent of the printed word and its translation from a dead language to the common tongue, of the bible all those centuries ago. It is no surprise, therefore, that the vested powers of the day will try and subvert this new power and deny the change and the future it represents at all costs, for their status and elevation depend upon their dominance of certain media, without which their supremacy is utterly void. Perhaps, then, it is no shock that they would attempt to preserve and avert the death of what makes them what they are, radically opposed to the change that is inevitable, unstoppable and as certain as the changes and decent from ascendency the church experienced all those years ago.

We confuse the issue with small things like rights of ownership and pecuniary obligation, but the root cause of it all is control of knowledge and by extension, power; arguments over the former minutia occlude the latter in a deliberately calculated double bluff.
Funny that we repeat ourselves so often. Maybe the strictures of our social systems leave no room for other means of growth to the future.

Vive la revolution!

[Oberon]

Well said Jumpy, and Penguin I love your sig!

[Catfish]

Indeed well said, Jumpy !

A good video (i think) to understand SOPA, and PIPA:



Greetings,
Catfish

[Krauter]

Originally Posted by Platapus

The question is, why be dependent on only one site (wikipedia)?

I do a lot of open source research as part of my job, Wikipedia going down only cause a slight inconvenience.

Mainly I use it if I want to quickly search for something (actor, movie, historical event) as it presents a general overview of the event with a lot of links to other sites as well as other information on wiki itself

[krashkart]

Originally Posted by August

Yeah in it's present form, but it will be back as sure as casino bills in spite of consistent overwhelming public opposition.

We can trust that it will, and it will probably stink just as much as SOPA v0.010.

[Blood_splat]

I was just about to post that video.

[krashkart]

Originally Posted by Dowly

I actually watched around 4-5 hours of the hearings and all that time, the most that was talked about was "we really should get someone here who knows this stuff, because we don't have any idea".

This is what prevents war, keeps the economy running smoothly, creates jobs, funds education, et cetera, et cetera.

[NeonSamurai]

Just an FYI but all 3 SOPA related threads have now been merged together.

[soopaman2]

To oppose SOPA and PIPA is being spun into advocacy for thievery by our beloved legislative branch.
Same way if you opposed the war in Afghanistan you were not patriotic, and hated the troops.

I read an article about it on MSNBC website, and there was a disclaimer at the bottom of the article. Why I read that sewer I do not know...

I can't quote it exactly but it read somewhat along the lines that MSNBC is a partnership between Microsoft and NBC (comcast who owns 51%..GE owns the other 49% if you care) does not agree with the protests while Microsoft does.

It turned my stomach, I cannot decipher why it did exactly.

I am done smashing the conservative press only, I lost all faith in all the press. Open game on anyone.

[yubba]

Comes down to modern day book burning don't it, see the elites can't stand to see us becoming wealthy, or become educated, that would make them, not so elite, it seems almost a year ago I said the net was in danger you all thought I was crazy, well if you must know I am Ha ha ha ha whoop whoop

[August]

Originally Posted by yubba

...you all thought I was crazy, well if you must know I am Ha ha ha ha whoop whoop

We've known that for some time.

[mookiemookie]

I only hope that the minor victory we've won here against lobbyist dollars can be carried forward, and all the touchy feely good articles about how this is a victory for the common person against big business are true.

Fingers crossed.

[Dowly]

SOPA is being partly revived...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...ve-part-of-it/

You probably remember the online outrage over the Stop Online Piracy Act
(SOPA) copyright enforcement proposal. Last week, the Department of
Commerce’s Internet Policy Task Force released a report on digital copyright
policy that endorsed one piece of the controversial proposal: making the
streaming of copyrighted works a felony.

Huzzah!

[Ducimus]

Headline:

SOPA died in 2012, but Obama administration wants to revive part of it

Thats all i needed to read right there. I am hardly surprised.