SOPA

[August]

Originally Posted by soopaman2

Today it is piracy sites. Tommorrow it is sites being critical of the government. The next day it is media sites, and after that, we are like China.

Assuming that the media sites aren't already on the government bandwagon:

[soopaman2]

Originally Posted by August

Assuming that the media sites aren't already on the government bandwagon:

OWS is still evil August. Your point is valid, but any article painting those pinkos as positive is bad. Even if it is in mockery.

Your pic is interfering with my fascism.

The lawyers for the Koch brothers will be contacting you shortly, as well as execution squads, should your answers not be satisfactory.

Sieg Hiel

[August]

Originally Posted by soopaman2

OWS is still evil August. Your point is valid, but any article painting those pinkos as positive is bad. Even if it is in mockery.

Your pic is interfering with my fascism.

The lawyers for the Koch brothers will be contacting you shortly, as well as execution squads, should your answers not be satisfactory.

Sieg Hiel

Well like I said before I won't be accepting their surrender. I don't have the room to take them all prisoner.

[mookiemookie]

You want to see something funny...read Fox News' version of the internet blackout story. Talk about a slanted view.

It says about Wikipedia's blackout:

But the online encyclopedia's blackout is a line-in-the-sand action -- and it isn't sitting well with some of its volunteer editors.

"Some"? How many is "some"? It presents this fact like there's a huge controversy because Wikipedia just went ahead and made this decision on it's own. It didn't. It was voted on by Wikipedia editors. So obviously "some" is a minority if the motion to black the site out passed.

"My main concern is that it puts the organization in the role of advocacy, and that's a slippery slope," said editor Robert Lawton, a Michigan computer consultant who would prefer that the encyclopedia stick to being a neutral repository of knowledge. "Before we know it, we're blacked out because we want to save the whales."

It's a slippery slope all right - a slippery slope fallacy. If Robert can't tell the difference between making a statement about an issue that affects the existence of Wikipedia itself and one that doesn't, he's got some issues.

The article goes on to say:

The shutdown adds to a very vocal body of critics who are speaking out against the legislation. But the bill's many supporters -- including the Motion Picture Association of America (MPAA), the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA), the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and News Corp., the parent company of FoxNews.com -- argue that those critics simply misunderstand the bill.

Great, so it presents their side of the argument - that these people are uninformed whiners. But it says nothing about the critics of the bill - webmasters, net security experts, even Vint Cerf, one of the guys who worked on the Internet while it was still a DARPA project. I think these guys know what they're talking about. No mention at all of the intellectual cache of those opposed. Just repeat the same stock answer the SOPA proponents use when any criticism is levelled against the bill - "oh you just don't understand it."

And then, counting it out we have a one sentence quote from a Google spokesperson against SOPA, and another one from Jimmy Wales about how Wikipedia is still neutral. But then we have quotes from Chris Dodd, Robert Lawton, Timothy Lee and Dick Costello who are all critical of the blackout. Fair and balanced, hmm?

Social news website Reddit.com is shutting down for 12 hours on Wednesday as well, but most companies are staying up.

Oh get that? Most sites are staying up. You hear that guys, everything's cool because most of the millions of websites that exist are still up. We can still see the menu at Jim Bob's Pancake House, and Aunt Nelly didn't blackout her website full of the kid's pictures. Just nevermind these small time whiners like Google, Wikipedia, Reddit, Craigslist, Boingboing, Wordpress...

[soopaman2]

Dear Mr. Mookiemookie,

I appreciate you reading our website but due to new laws, I am forced to ask you lay on your stomach with both hands behind your head, until a representative from Homeland Security (with a silenced pistol) can be there to "process" you.

While we Rupert Murdoch butt-huggers appreciate open discussion, due to federal law we are forced to execute you.

Until then please feel free to watch the 100th season of the Simpsons on our channel, we will be talking about why rights are overrated, as Homer and family discovers, that George Orwell was full of crap.

Just keep jacking off to Megyn Kelly, the facts will be irrelivant. (sp)

Your pal,
Rupert.

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by soopaman2

Just keep jacking off to Megyn Kelly, the facts will be irrelivant. (sp)

+1 for you.

I have always thought that about FOX News. It's like they're saying 'Just watch the boobs and the legs. Let the words sink in.'

[Penguin]

The fact that some people were surprised about this action by wikipedia and didn't know about it beforehand, shows only how much need there is for internet protest. German wiki states in it's article about SOPA that the mayor American news outlets nearly made no reports about this law. Those outlets who run big stories about any fart J-Lo utters. One should not wonder about this though, as their owners support this stupid bill.

I find Google's doodle for the US kind of cool:



Also it's fine that they ask their users to take action: https://www.google.com/landing/takeaction/

German Google has nothing about SOPA though, no droodle, no link

[mookiemookie]

If SOPA/PIPA passes, and some content creator (Ubisoft) decides that mods are infringements of their copyright on Silent Hunter, is it possible that Subsim could be a target of a cease and desist? Shut down even?

It certainly seems like it would run afoul of the part where a site could be nailed it it were "primarily as a means for engaging in, enabling, or facilitating the activities" of copyright infringement or counterfeit products; or if the site is designed by its operator "as a means for engaging in, enabling, or facilitating the activities" of copyright infringement or counterfeit products.

[soopaman2]

Originally Posted by Penguin

The fact that some people were surprised about this action by wikipedia and didn't know about it beforehand, shows only how much need there is for internet protest. German wiki states in it's article about SOPA that the mayor American news outlets nearly made no reports about this law. Those outlets who run big stories about any fart J-Lo utters. One should not wonder about this though, as their owners support this stupid bill.

I find Google's doodle for the US kind of cool:



Also it's fine that they ask their users to take action: https://www.google.com/landing/takeaction/

German Google has nothing about SOPA though, no droodle, no link

I hate to sound like a cocky American Turd, who thinks the world revolves around us, but this law will hurt the world as a whole.

The crippling of information, is the impedment of human progress.

If this goes over, I put my checking account on similar laws in your Euro havens coming soon after.

Then we can all just use censored baidu, and be happy in ignorant bliss.

Maybe the Chinese will share the "bad" words with us, so we know what not to search so we won't be arrested indefinitely under the patriot act

[TLAM Strike]

Originally Posted by soopaman2

OWS is still evil August.

Almost as evil as the NYT!

Your pic is interfering with my fascism.

^Quote of the day!

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

If SOPA/PIPA passes, and some content creator (Ubisoft) decides that mods are infringements of their copyright on Silent Hunter, is it possible that Subsim could be a target of a cease and desist? Shut down even?

We all might be hanging out on Subsim.ca at that point.