Santorum brought home stillborn child...bat**** crazy alert.

[1480]

Having gone it through it twice, it's not a fun experience. How people express grief and how they get over it is a private matter.

Its the fact that the media is choosing the loss of a child to highlight the fact that this man is pro-life is disgusting. Once again, the fair and balanced MSM is playing king maker.

[kraznyi_oktjabr]

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

The story is coming out because he is running for President of the United States. His detractors are trying to use scare tactics. The same thing happens to every candidate when he or she runs. That's American politics for you.

This is side in american politics I really hate. Its presidential election year here in Finland and so far I have not heard about any scare campaigns (or they have not been news worthy). I would be very pleased if it stays that way.

Finnish Presidential election 2012

First round 22 January with advance voting 11-17 January.
Second round 5 February.
Second round occurs only if no one gets majority of votes (50% or more) which in this years election is virtually guaranteed.
Wikipedia article on this year's circus

[Dowly]

Originally Posted by kraznyi_oktjabr

This is side in american politics I really hate.

Aye, same here. Never understood it, it's like a bloodless civil war from what I've seen.

"Balls to what is good for America, as long as our candidate wins!!!111"

Stupid.

[Hottentot]

Originally Posted by kraznyi_oktjabr

so far I have not heard about any scare campaigns (or they have not been news worthy).

Nah, the big dogs are far too afraid of saying anything in fear of losing voters. With only a few million voters and a handful of candidates (of which half of them are there just for publicity) the best bet is to talk a lot without saying anything.

Originally Posted by Dowly

Aye, same here.

The above being said, I third this.

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by 1480

Having gone it through it twice, it's not a fun experience. How people express grief and how they get over it is a private matter.

Its the fact that the media is choosing the loss of a child to highlight the fact that this man is pro-life is disgusting. Once again, the fair and balanced MSM is playing king maker.

The media should be aware of it anyway because Santorum used it to illustrate his position several times during his 2008 senatorial campaign. He's proud of it. Frankly, if you use it then it is fair game. If you feel it's use is disgusting then I would suggest your disgust be directed at Santorum himself for making it public in the first place.

I thought that FOX News had the fair and balanced tag line.

[CCIP]

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

The media should be aware of it anyway because Santorum used it to illustrate his position several times during his 2008 senatorial campaign. He's proud of it. Frankly, if you use it then it is fair game. If you feel it's use is disgusting then I would suggest your disgust be directed at Santorum himself for making it public in the first place.

I thought that FOX News had the fair and balanced tag line.

Agreed, while I think media sensationalization is definitely at work here, Santorum is the one that has made this public discourse in the first place - and in fact has made it impossible for this to not be public discourse, because he has used it to illustrate his position on public policy as an elected official. So, sorry, while this is distasteful, I have no sympathy for Santorum's privacy and feelings here - he chose to take this beyond private business and doesn't deserve to be treated sensitively over it. Granted, this isn't what we should be focusing on when discussing politics, of course.

[1480]

Lo siento T and C.

I did not involve myself in that race, so I did not have knowledge of the fact. If it is as you state, than no.

Well, lets see if and how it is rehashed in the media. The MSM gave Obama a pass with his relationships to Rezko, Wright, and Ayers.

They had a road map and chose to throw it in the garbage.

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by Sea Demon

Strikes me as extremely arrogant and pathetic to criticize how any family grieves for the loss of a child. This is a tough time for any family who's been through the loss of a baby.

There is nothing arrogant and pathetic about pointing out that someone is sounbalanced to bring a dead body home to "meet" the family. Grief is a powerful emotion but rational, sane people do not even react this way when grieving where as people who are irrational and not exactly sane normally(Santorum's much espoused religious views show he is not exactly rational to begin with) This fool brought a dead body home! Sure it was a baby, but remove the emotion attached to it being a child "it's a baby" is a not an excuse for crazy behavior from anyone, let a lone a Presidential candidate.

Bubbles, you are really showing yourself up.
while a few people have touched on why it may be a story you are just demonstrating that you are totally clueless.

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by Kongo Otto

Do you really mean he is still mourning?
After all the posted News link is almost seven years old.

IMHO its far more interesting what the reason was to post a News article from April 2005 in this forum?

Does not matter how old it is, it happened and needs to be out there.Most sane people who maybe even considered him(I was one, sad to say, even though I despise his absurd religious views, I may have swallowed the lump in my throat and voted for him over Romney, we just can't run Romney against Barry) but this story, pointed out by a friend while were discussing things over a nice bottle of single malt, is just beyond disturbing.Normal civilized , rational people would not bring the dead body of a stillborn home, sorry.This man belongs in a padded white room, not the white house and does not even need to be close to the nomination or VP slot, which is what I think he has been angling for all along honestly, VP.

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

Bubbles, you are really showing yourself up.
while a few people have touched on why it may be a story you are just demonstrating that you are totally clueless.

Tribes, you will fight anything I say on here even when the fair and rational minded such as Takeda(who even when I disagree, I respect because he has reason behind it unlike you), it's personal for you, get a life.

Showing myself up? No, I am pointing out what an irrational rube and fool Santorum is.Nuts like him make us conservatives who have beliefs that are rational and in line with reality look like fools.Santorum would cost us four more years of Obama is he was the nominee, because even if things are still terrible economic wise(they will be, prob worst, watch and see) people will be turned off by Santorums idiocy.

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by 1480

Lo siento T and C.

I did not involve myself in that race, so I did not have knowledge of the fact. If it is as you state, than no.

Well, lets see if and how it is rehashed in the media. The MSM gave Obama a pass with his relationships to Rezko, Wright, and Ayers.

They had a road map and chose to throw it in the garbage.

I despise the MSM for giving Obama a pass on his shady past(you just mentioned the well known stuff), it alone should have kept him out of the white house.There is a difference between being a shady chicago political left wing hack and being an irrational nutjob like Santorum.

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by Dowly

Aye, same here. Never understood it, it's like a bloodless civil war from what I've seen.

"Balls to what is good for America, as long as our candidate wins!!!111"

Stupid.

Pointing out one's dangerous flaws is a healthy part of politics.Only really negative when it's not true or the truth is stretched and things are not portrayed accurately.This is not a negative attack on Santorum, it is 100% true and it is pointing out a huge flaw, he is a irrational nut who brought a dead baby home to "meet" the family.

[Dowly]

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

Pointing out one's dangerous flaws is a healthy part of politics.Only really negative when it's not true or the truth is stretched and things are not portrayed accurately.This is not a negative attack on Santorum, it is 100% true and it is pointing out a huge flaw, he is a irrational nut who brought a dead baby home to "meet" the family.

I'm not talking about Santorum, but politics in general over there.

Showing myself up? No, I am pointing out what an irrational rube and fool Santorum is.

Like I implied, you are simply talking out of your arse.
In case you didn't notice Takeda who you think agrees with you put in some qualifications which you seem totally oblivious to.
I never thought I would defend a prick like Santorum.(only of course defending his actions not his politicising of those actions), but in this case you are so far over the line of ignorance that it simply needs saying.
Maybe when you grow up and see a bit more of life(and death) you may perhaps understand why you are most definately being a pillock on this paricular issue.