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Old 01-08-12, 10:40 AM   #1
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Dont missunderstand me, i dont have a problem with the whole story.
Maybe its a bit odd but sometimes people do odd things, whats odd and whats not thats always in the eye of the beholder.

No need to ask me about anykind of permission, i dont have a problem with your view.
The story is coming out because he is running for President of the United States. His detractors are trying to use scare tactics. The same thing happens to every candidate when he or she runs. That's American politics for you.
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Old 01-08-12, 10:56 AM   #2
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Having gone it through it twice, it's not a fun experience. How people express grief and how they get over it is a private matter.

Its the fact that the media is choosing the loss of a child to highlight the fact that this man is pro-life is disgusting. Once again, the fair and balanced MSM is playing king maker.
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Old 01-08-12, 12:49 PM   #3
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Having gone it through it twice, it's not a fun experience. How people express grief and how they get over it is a private matter.

Its the fact that the media is choosing the loss of a child to highlight the fact that this man is pro-life is disgusting. Once again, the fair and balanced MSM is playing king maker.
The media should be aware of it anyway because Santorum used it to illustrate his position several times during his 2008 senatorial campaign. He's proud of it. Frankly, if you use it then it is fair game. If you feel it's use is disgusting then I would suggest your disgust be directed at Santorum himself for making it public in the first place.

I thought that FOX News had the fair and balanced tag line.
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The media should be aware of it anyway because Santorum used it to illustrate his position several times during his 2008 senatorial campaign. He's proud of it. Frankly, if you use it then it is fair game. If you feel it's use is disgusting then I would suggest your disgust be directed at Santorum himself for making it public in the first place.

I thought that FOX News had the fair and balanced tag line.
Agreed, while I think media sensationalization is definitely at work here, Santorum is the one that has made this public discourse in the first place - and in fact has made it impossible for this to not be public discourse, because he has used it to illustrate his position on public policy as an elected official. So, sorry, while this is distasteful, I have no sympathy for Santorum's privacy and feelings here - he chose to take this beyond private business and doesn't deserve to be treated sensitively over it. Granted, this isn't what we should be focusing on when discussing politics, of course.
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Old 01-08-12, 02:44 PM   #5
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Lo siento T and C.

I did not involve myself in that race, so I did not have knowledge of the fact. If it is as you state, than no.

Well, lets see if and how it is rehashed in the media. The MSM gave Obama a pass with his relationships to Rezko, Wright, and Ayers.

They had a road map and chose to throw it in the garbage.
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Lo siento T and C.

I did not involve myself in that race, so I did not have knowledge of the fact. If it is as you state, than no.

Well, lets see if and how it is rehashed in the media. The MSM gave Obama a pass with his relationships to Rezko, Wright, and Ayers.

They had a road map and chose to throw it in the garbage.

I despise the MSM for giving Obama a pass on his shady past(you just mentioned the well known stuff), it alone should have kept him out of the white house.There is a difference between being a shady chicago political left wing hack and being an irrational nutjob like Santorum.
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Showing myself up? No, I am pointing out what an irrational rube and fool Santorum is.
Like I implied, you are simply talking out of your arse.
In case you didn't notice Takeda who you think agrees with you put in some qualifications which you seem totally oblivious to.
I never thought I would defend a prick like Santorum.(only of course defending his actions not his politicising of those actions), but in this case you are so far over the line of ignorance that it simply needs saying.
Maybe when you grow up and see a bit more of life(and death) you may perhaps understand why you are most definately being a pillock on this paricular issue.
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The story is coming out because he is running for President of the United States. His detractors are trying to use scare tactics. The same thing happens to every candidate when he or she runs. That's American politics for you.
This is side in american politics I really hate. Its presidential election year here in Finland and so far I have not heard about any scare campaigns (or they have not been news worthy). I would be very pleased if it stays that way.

Finnish Presidential election 2012

First round 22 January with advance voting 11-17 January.
Second round 5 February.
Second round occurs only if no one gets majority of votes (50% or more) which in this years election is virtually guaranteed.
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This is side in american politics I really hate.
Aye, same here. Never understood it, it's like a bloodless civil war from what I've seen.

"Balls to what is good for America, as long as our candidate wins!!!111"

Stupid.
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so far I have not heard about any scare campaigns (or they have not been news worthy).
Nah, the big dogs are far too afraid of saying anything in fear of losing voters. With only a few million voters and a handful of candidates (of which half of them are there just for publicity) the best bet is to talk a lot without saying anything.

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Aye, same here.
The above being said, I third this.
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Aye, same here. Never understood it, it's like a bloodless civil war from what I've seen.

"Balls to what is good for America, as long as our candidate wins!!!111"

Stupid.

Pointing out one's dangerous flaws is a healthy part of politics.Only really negative when it's not true or the truth is stretched and things are not portrayed accurately.This is not a negative attack on Santorum, it is 100% true and it is pointing out a huge flaw, he is a irrational nut who brought a dead baby home to "meet" the family.
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Pointing out one's dangerous flaws is a healthy part of politics.Only really negative when it's not true or the truth is stretched and things are not portrayed accurately.This is not a negative attack on Santorum, it is 100% true and it is pointing out a huge flaw, he is a irrational nut who brought a dead baby home to "meet" the family.
I'm not talking about Santorum, but politics in general over there.
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