Michele Bachmann halts presidential campaign

Skybird · 01-04-12, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

Bachmann can speak with correct grammar and syntax, give her ideas in an understandable fashion and is actually litterate. She doesn't ramble and will not get lost in a discussion of personal philosophy. So no, she is far more intelligent than Palin. In fact, she doesn't even belong in that category. I think she and the rest of the so-called Tea Party are a NeoCon ruse, and I disagree with those politics, but she's not an idiot.

You're sure...?

http://politicalhumor.about.com/od/r...ann-quotes.htm

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/0..._n_885756.html

Takeda Shingen · 01-04-12, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

You're sure...?

Are you saying that Michelle Bachmann is unable to form complete sentences? If the answer is 'yes', then I would disagree with that. If the answer is 'no', then I would place her above Sarah Palin.

Skybird · 01-05-12, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

Are you saying that Michelle Bachmann is unable to form complete sentences? If the answer is 'yes', then I would disagree with that. If the answer is 'no', then I would place her above Sarah Palin.

I disagree with those parts where you said "far more intelligent than Palin" and "no idiot".

Her arguments often were crude, to put it mildly, and her rethorics malicious.

Penguin · 01-05-12, 01:01 PM

Anybody who actually believes in "Intelligent Design" does not know the meaning of either words.
Especially the first word should never be used in connection with said person.

01-05-12, 01:20 PM

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Anybody who actually believes in "Intelligent Design" does not know the meaning of either words.

I believe in Intelligent Falling, after all gravity is only a theory.

soopaman2 · 01-05-12, 01:38 PM

What gets me going is how anyone even thought she was a viable candidate this long.

Goes to show that there is still alot of dumb people out there, willing to vote on looks and religion alone.

Takeda Shingen · 01-05-12, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Penguin

Anybody who actually believes in "Intelligent Design" does not know the meaning of either words.
Especially the first word should never be used in connection with said person.

I believe in intelligent design.

u crank · 01-05-12, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

I believe in intelligent design.

I believe in a creator. Given the scope, beauty, and complexity of the design, I can only assume he is intelligent.

Sailor Steve · 01-05-12, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by u crank

I believe in a creator. Given the scope, beauty, and complexity of the design, I can only assume he is intelligent.

Unfortunately belief has pretty much nothing to do with fact. Without evidence, it's just wishful thinking.

Penguin · 01-05-12, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

I believe in intelligent design.

Oh I do believe that there are intelligent designers out there, but I haven't met one yet

. However I believe in intelligent design when I see some works of Scandinavian Industrial Design, where form and function are both fulfilled.

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I believe in a creator. Given the scope, beauty, and complexity of the design, I can only assume he is intelligent.

It's not the point if a creator exists or not or a creatorness, at least we all know that we have been created.
The point is that complexity can be a sign of an intelligent designer or an overly, unnecessary complicated design. Take programming: is the complex code superior or the one which is simpler but performs better. Something complex is not always better for your task, but it certainly can enhance the experience you have with the game

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Which brings us to the task of the creator: why he put us onto planet Earth and if everything is part of a big plan, perfectly designed and clearly written to the last comma.
Did he foresee the extinction of the Dodo and developed him only that some eco-guys can moan about animal extinction? Or would an intelligent designer not put some randomness into his work, something which often leads to astonishing results.

We're really leaving Bachman here a little - to me, her words about "Intelligent Design" reveal no philosophical thoughts about our existence but only an attempt to bring Creationism onto the agenda, bringing religion back into the state as a pseudo-compensation for the felt power loss of the Christian Right.

Takeda Shingen · 01-05-12, 06:45 PM

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Oh I do believe that there are intelligent designers out there, but I haven't met one yet

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Well, that wasn't very nice.

u crank · 01-05-12, 08:07 PM

We are leaving Bachman.

My problem with her and others like her is trying to legislate morality. Usually done with a gun. [Taliban.]
Free thinkers, regardless of beliefs on creation and design can't and won't accept it.

Believing or not believing in any thing does not make it true or not. That's magic. It works the other way round. It's up to us to choose,or not. Nothing we do changes the facts. If there was definite proof there is no discussion.

Lots of interesting stuff. Great read

01-05-12, 01:38 PM	#6
soopaman2 Der Alte Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: New Jersey, USA Posts: 3,316 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 0	What gets me going is how anyone even thought she was a viable candidate this long. Goes to show that there is still alot of dumb people out there, willing to vote on looks and religion alone. __________________ If Hitler invaded Hell I would make at least a favourable reference to the devil in the House of Commons. -Winston Churchill- The most fascinating man in the world.

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u crank Old enough to know better Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Prince Edward Island Posts: 11,745 Downloads: 136 Uploads: 0	We are leaving Bachman. My problem with her and others like her is trying to legislate morality. Usually done with a gun. [Taliban.] Free thinkers, regardless of beliefs on creation and design can't and won't accept it. Believing or not believing in any thing does not make it true or not. That's magic. It works the other way round. It's up to us to choose,or not. Nothing we do changes the facts. If there was definite proof there is no discussion. Lots of interesting stuff. Great read __________________ “Two possibilities exist: either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.” ― Arthur C. Clarke

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Penguin Ocean Warrior Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Rheinische Republik Posts: 3,322 Downloads: 92 Uploads: 0	Anybody who actually believes in "Intelligent Design" does not know the meaning of either words. Especially the first word should never be used in connection with said person.