Michele Bachmann halts presidential campaign - Page 2

u crank · 01-04-12, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

Bachmann can speak with correct grammar and syntax, give her ideas in an understandable fashion and is actually litterate. She doesn't ramble and will not get lost in a discussion of personal philosophy. So no, she is far more intelligent than Palin. In fact, she doesn't even belong in that category. I think she and the rest of the so-called Tea Party are a NeoCon ruse, and I disagree with those politics, but she's not an idiot.

Respectfully agree. "Intelligent" may have been the wrong word.

geetrue · 01-04-12, 08:45 PM

I had to mute the sound everytime she was on the air ...

Skybird · 01-05-12, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

Are you saying that Michelle Bachmann is unable to form complete sentences? If the answer is 'yes', then I would disagree with that. If the answer is 'no', then I would place her above Sarah Palin.

I disagree with those parts where you said "far more intelligent than Palin" and "no idiot".

Her arguments often were crude, to put it mildly, and her rethorics malicious.

Penguin · 01-05-12, 01:01 PM

Anybody who actually believes in "Intelligent Design" does not know the meaning of either words.
Especially the first word should never be used in connection with said person.

01-05-12, 01:20 PM

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Anybody who actually believes in "Intelligent Design" does not know the meaning of either words.

I believe in Intelligent Falling, after all gravity is only a theory.

soopaman2 · 01-05-12, 01:38 PM

What gets me going is how anyone even thought she was a viable candidate this long.

Goes to show that there is still alot of dumb people out there, willing to vote on looks and religion alone.

u crank · 01-05-12, 02:59 PM

As a Canadian with a fascination for American politics, I've read or heard a lot of about her positions, and they seem pretty extreme. I know she's not the only one who holds these views nor did she come up with them. I only wonder how extreme it can get?

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... " I had to mute the sound every time she was on the air" geetrue.

Some times that not enough. I still know what she's saying!

soopaman2 · 01-05-12, 03:31 PM

My cousin said to me that if she was as ugly as Hilary Clinton she would have lasted half as long. At least Mrs Clinton knows what she is talking about before she says it.

I agreed. Bachmann was trying to appeal to a small segment of the population (religious tea-nuts) and got told in Iowa where to go with that divisionist and hateful rhetoric she spews.

I only hope Minnesota votes her out of congress so she can go back to her gay hating, government aid accepting "orphanage" she runs. Maybe then she will talk alot less about government programs giving useless people money, since she is one of the people her tea-nut kind crusade against...

Hypocrasy in politics? *gasps*

Takeda Shingen · 01-05-12, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Penguin

Anybody who actually believes in "Intelligent Design" does not know the meaning of either words.
Especially the first word should never be used in connection with said person.

I believe in intelligent design.

u crank · 01-05-12, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

I believe in intelligent design.

I believe in a creator. Given the scope, beauty, and complexity of the design, I can only assume he is intelligent.

Sailor Steve · 01-05-12, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by u crank

I believe in a creator. Given the scope, beauty, and complexity of the design, I can only assume he is intelligent.

Unfortunately belief has pretty much nothing to do with fact. Without evidence, it's just wishful thinking.

Takeda Shingen · 01-05-12, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Unfortunately belief has pretty much nothing to do with fact. Without evidence, it's just wishful thinking.

Have you been dead?

vienna · 01-05-12, 06:34 PM

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Have you been dead?

I'm going to presume, neither have you; ergo, "wishful thinking"...

Sailor Steve · 01-05-12, 06:35 PM

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Have you been dead?

No. Neither has anyone who talks about it. I'm not saying it isn't true, I'm just saying that believing isn't the same as knowing. I don't know either way, but I've reached a point where I'd like see at least a little evidence.

Speaking of which, I have to go to a funeral. Back later.

Penguin · 01-05-12, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

I believe in intelligent design.

Oh I do believe that there are intelligent designers out there, but I haven't met one yet

. However I believe in intelligent design when I see some works of Scandinavian Industrial Design, where form and function are both fulfilled.

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Originally Posted by u crank

I believe in a creator. Given the scope, beauty, and complexity of the design, I can only assume he is intelligent.

It's not the point if a creator exists or not or a creatorness, at least we all know that we have been created.
The point is that complexity can be a sign of an intelligent designer or an overly, unnecessary complicated design. Take programming: is the complex code superior or the one which is simpler but performs better. Something complex is not always better for your task, but it certainly can enhance the experience you have with the game

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Which brings us to the task of the creator: why he put us onto planet Earth and if everything is part of a big plan, perfectly designed and clearly written to the last comma.
Did he foresee the extinction of the Dodo and developed him only that some eco-guys can moan about animal extinction? Or would an intelligent designer not put some randomness into his work, something which often leads to astonishing results.

We're really leaving Bachman here a little - to me, her words about "Intelligent Design" reveal no philosophical thoughts about our existence but only an attempt to bring Creationism onto the agenda, bringing religion back into the state as a pseudo-compensation for the felt power loss of the Christian Right.

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geetrue Cold War Boomer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Walla Walla Posts: 2,837 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	I had to mute the sound everytime she was on the air ... __________________

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soopaman2 Der Alte Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: New Jersey, USA Posts: 3,316 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 0	What gets me going is how anyone even thought she was a viable candidate this long. Goes to show that there is still alot of dumb people out there, willing to vote on looks and religion alone. __________________ If Hitler invaded Hell I would make at least a favourable reference to the devil in the House of Commons. -Winston Churchill- The most fascinating man in the world.

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u crank Old enough to know better Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Prince Edward Island Posts: 11,745 Downloads: 136 Uploads: 0	As a Canadian with a fascination for American politics, I've read or heard a lot of about her positions, and they seem pretty extreme. I know she's not the only one who holds these views nor did she come up with them. I only wonder how extreme it can get? Quote ... " I had to mute the sound every time she was on the air" geetrue. Some times that not enough. I still know what she's saying! __________________ “Two possibilities exist: either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.” ― Arthur C. Clarke

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soopaman2 Der Alte Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: New Jersey, USA Posts: 3,316 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 0	My cousin said to me that if she was as ugly as Hilary Clinton she would have lasted half as long. At least Mrs Clinton knows what she is talking about before she says it. I agreed. Bachmann was trying to appeal to a small segment of the population (religious tea-nuts) and got told in Iowa where to go with that divisionist and hateful rhetoric she spews. I only hope Minnesota votes her out of congress so she can go back to her gay hating, government aid accepting "orphanage" she runs. Maybe then she will talk alot less about government programs giving useless people money, since she is one of the people her tea-nut kind crusade against... Hypocrasy in politics? gasps __________________ If Hitler invaded Hell I would make at least a favourable reference to the devil in the House of Commons. -Winston Churchill- The most fascinating man in the world.

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Penguin Ocean Warrior Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Rheinische Republik Posts: 3,322 Downloads: 92 Uploads: 0	Anybody who actually believes in "Intelligent Design" does not know the meaning of either words. Especially the first word should never be used in connection with said person.