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Old 12-21-11, 04:45 PM   #1
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HELSINKI — Finnish authorities on Wednesday impounded 160 tons of explosives and 69 surface-to-air missiles found on a British-flagged cargo ship ultimately destined for Shanghai, China, officials said.
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Where did those Patriots come from?
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Old 12-21-11, 05:27 PM   #3
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Where did those Patriots come from?
Maybe a Chinese callback to remedy a technical problem?

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Where did those Patriots come from?
Germany maybe? I've read South Korea has purchased second hand Patriot missile systems from them before.

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I love the fact they were in a box marked 'Fireworks'
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Old 12-21-11, 07:39 PM   #6
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I love the fact they were in a box marked 'Fireworks'
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Germany maybe? I've read South Korea has purchased second hand Patriot missile systems from them before.

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If they are intended for China surely the Germans wouldn't want to get involved
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Old 12-21-11, 07:51 PM   #7
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If they are intended for China surely the Germans wouldn't want to get involved
The latest news up here is that they're indeed coming from Germany and intended for South Korea, like RS said. Apparently some shipping documents relating to South Korea have been found inside the containers. They're just supposed to be transported via China for some reason, or the ship was supposed to make a port call in China before heading to ROK. An anonymous employee of the company responsible for the shipment commented that they might have loaded the missiles onto a wrong ship by accident(yeah right).

In any case does anyone want to sell us some Patriot launchers, radars and support vehicles now that we've got a bunch of missiles?
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Old 12-21-11, 08:07 PM   #8
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The latest news up here is that they're indeed coming from Germany and intended for South Korea, like RS said. Apparently some shipping documents relating to South Korea have been found inside the containers. They're just supposed to be transported via China for some reason, or the ship was supposed to make a port call in China before heading to ROK. An anonymous employee of the company responsible for the shipment commented that they might have loaded the missiles onto a wrong ship by accident(yeah right).

In any case does anyone want to sell us some Patriot launchers, radars and support vehicles now that we've got a bunch of missiles?
China might have a few going cheap seeing as how they're no longer going to get the missiles
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In any case does anyone want to sell us some Patriot launchers, radars and support vehicles now that we've got a bunch of missiles?
Sorry, we prefer to sell our good equipment to countries that kill witches. You have got to work on this first before we can deliver stuff.
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China might have a few going cheap seeing as how they're no longer going to get the missiles
The fact that one ship was seized doesnt mean there arent more. As we already know the Chinese, right now they´re probably reverse-engineering them.
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I cant believe Germany would send officialy or unofficialy patriot missiles to china.
Its not exactly RPG launcher....
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Old 12-22-11, 01:51 PM   #12
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I cant believe Germany would send officialy or unofficialy patriot missiles to china.
Its not exactly RPG launcher....
As this mess unravels current summary of explanations of events is:
- Germany sell Patriots to South Korea
-> missiles are loaded to ship in Emden travelling to South Korea via Finland and China (!)
-> South Korea and shipping company should do necessary paperwork
-> no one does paper work
-> somebode writes "fireworks" into container
-> missiles are found (read events from post below)

= police has a lot hard questions for ya...

Story have changed at least once so far so Germany, South Korea and shipping company has few things to explain.
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Old 12-22-11, 02:09 PM   #13
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-> somebode writes "fireworks" into container
-> harbour employees (?) call police
It started unravelling when the stevedores noticed dangerously packed explosives(nitroguanidine) onboard and alerted authorities. The authorities then inspected the entire cargo.
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Old 12-22-11, 02:25 PM   #14
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It started unravelling when the stevedores noticed dangerously packed explosives(nitroguanidine) onboard and alerted authorities. The authorities then inspected the entire cargo.
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- Sell missiles to ROK
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