Finland impounds shipment of Patriot missiles, explosives in ship destined for Shangh

Fincuan · 12-22-11, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by kraznyi_oktjabr

-> somebode writes "fireworks" into container
-> harbour employees (?) call police

It started unravelling when the stevedores noticed dangerously packed explosives(nitroguanidine) onboard and alerted authorities. The authorities then inspected the entire cargo.

kraznyi_oktjabr · 12-22-11, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Fincuan

It started unravelling when the stevedores noticed dangerously packed explosives(nitroguanidine) onboard and alerted authorities. The authorities then inspected the entire cargo.

Thank you!

Oberon · 12-22-11, 02:55 PM

- Sell missiles to ROK
- ???
- Profit!

soopaman2 · 12-22-11, 03:16 PM

British flagged?

What are you guys doing, assisting in Chinas famous reverse engineering programs (aka stealing techs).

Or is it a black flag operation?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_flag

Question is who would strategically profit from such a find?

Oberon · 12-22-11, 03:20 PM

It's not British...it's the Isle of Man...

We don't talk about them...

Seriously, I have no idea why it would be flying an Isle of Man flag...it's all rather strange.

soopaman2 · 12-22-11, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Oberon

It's not British...it's the Isle of Man...

We don't talk about them...

Seriously, I have no idea why it would be flying an Isle of Man flag...it's all rather strange.

Hence my suspicion of a false flag op. I can't see this happening under the union jack legally.

Or it could have just been some Yahoo using the flag to be left alone. I am interested in the ships port of registry.

Osmium Steele · 12-22-11, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Oberon

- Sell missiles to ROK
- ???
- Profit!

OMG, they killed Kenny!

Osmium Steele · 12-22-11, 03:44 PM

Seriously, return the missiles, and you can keep Adam Lambert.

Skybird · 12-23-11, 06:48 AM

Looks like a Finnish fault. They admitted to have mis-translated the word "rocket" as "fireworks". Also, the explosives seem to have valid papers and beeing legal. Der Spiegel reports the German defence ministry confirmed the deal with South Korea for the Patriots has been fixed already in 2007.

Anyhow, to me Patriots are no rockets but missiles.

A FFAR is a rocket.

Fincuan · 12-23-11, 08:06 AM

Aye, that translation error is awkward indeed. In any case the wrap-up at the moment goes about like this:
The explosives were entirely legal, with proper permits but improperly packed. They had already been thrown around inside the ship during the storm it went through to get here.
The missiles were properly packed, marked as rockets(literally) but without proper permits needed for transporting weapons material through Finland. The deal and the destination seem completely normal, like Skybird said. The customs officials have confiscated them now and FDF is holding them at least pending the preliminary investigation. Normal procedure here.

Adam Lambert has also been let out now and no charges will be filed. You can have him back. As you can see the week has been filled with news, given that we basically have two of the biggest stories in one post here

12-22-11, 03:16 PM	#4
soopaman2 Der Alte Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: New Jersey, USA Posts: 3,316 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 0	British flagged? What are you guys doing, assisting in Chinas famous reverse engineering programs (aka stealing techs). Or is it a black flag operation? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_flag Question is who would strategically profit from such a find? __________________ If Hitler invaded Hell I would make at least a favourable reference to the devil in the House of Commons. -Winston Churchill- The most fascinating man in the world.

12-22-11, 03:44 PM	#8
Osmium Steele Ace of the Deep Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Upper midwest USA Posts: 1,101 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	Seriously, return the missiles, and you can keep Adam Lambert. __________________ In the month of July of the year 1348, between the feasts of St. Benedict and of St. Swithin, a strange thing came upon England... My U297 build thread

12-23-11, 06:48 AM	#9
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,649 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Looks like a Finnish fault. They admitted to have mis-translated the word "rocket" as "fireworks". Also, the explosives seem to have valid papers and beeing legal. Der Spiegel reports the German defence ministry confirmed the deal with South Korea for the Patriots has been fixed already in 2007. Anyhow, to me Patriots are no rockets but missiles. A FFAR is a rocket. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

12-22-11, 02:55 PM	#3
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	- Sell missiles to ROK - ??? - Profit!

12-22-11, 03:20 PM	#5
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	It's not British...it's the Isle of Man... We don't talk about them... Seriously, I have no idea why it would be flying an Isle of Man flag...it's all rather strange.

12-23-11, 08:06 AM	#10
Fincuan Admiral Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Suomi, sauna, puukko, perkele Posts: 2,346 Downloads: 39 Uploads: 0	Aye, that translation error is awkward indeed. In any case the wrap-up at the moment goes about like this: The explosives were entirely legal, with proper permits but improperly packed. They had already been thrown around inside the ship during the storm it went through to get here. The missiles were properly packed, marked as rockets(literally) but without proper permits needed for transporting weapons material through Finland. The deal and the destination seem completely normal, like Skybird said. The customs officials have confiscated them now and FDF is holding them at least pending the preliminary investigation. Normal procedure here. Adam Lambert has also been let out now and no charges will be filed. You can have him back. As you can see the week has been filled with news, given that we basically have two of the biggest stories in one post here