Woman beheaded in Saudi Arabia for practicing witchcraft

[Herr-Berbunch]

Originally Posted by jimbuna

73rd execution there this year

And the US has only executed 43 so far this year, still time for a couple more.

So by only executing 60%* of what Saudi's do is totally giving them the morally higher ground


Jussayin!


*Actually 58.9% if you must know.

[the_tyrant]

Originally Posted by Herr-Berbunch

And the US has only executed 43 so far this year, still time for a couple more.

So by only executing 60%* of what Saudi's do is totally giving them the morally higher ground


Jussayin!


*Actually 58.9% if you must know.

but if we look at the ratio of executed:population
the US is much lower

I am in favor of the death penalty for drug dealers

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Herr-Berbunch

And the US has only executed 43 so far this year, still time for a couple more.

So by only executing 60%* of what Saudi's do is totally giving them the morally higher ground


Jussayin!


*Actually 58.9% if you must know.

Of course one argument for the other side might be the difference in the reasons given for the executions and the crimes of the executed. It's been a long time since we exersized the death penalty for witchcraft.

[1480]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Of course one argument for the other side might be the difference in the reasons given for the executions and the crimes of the executed. It's been a long time since we exersized the death penalty for witchcraft.

Treason is still on the books for execution in the US. The only crime on the books that does not need felony murder to be eligible.

I believe it is 743 per 100,000 is the incarceration rate here in the US. 178 per 100,000 in Saudi Arabia.

US population 323 million and change. 2.3 million inmates. .001% executed

S A population 27 million and change. 48,060 inmates. 16% executed

I was never great with #'s so if I am off please correct.

[Herr-Berbunch]

Originally Posted by 1480

Treason is still on the books for execution in the US. The only crime on the books that does not need felony murder to be eligible.

I believe it is 743 per 100,000 is the incarceration rate here in the US. 178 per 100,000 in Saudi Arabia.

US population 323 million and change. 2.3 million inmates. .001% executed

S A population 27 million and change. 48,060 inmates. 16% executed

I was never great with #'s so if I am off please correct.

Going from you figures, I get 0.178%. I looked at those figures and did my own sums yesterday before posting, but didn't post my results - off the top of my head (cba to do it all again) and they were both in the 0.something but I thought it was even less than .001% for US.

[1480]

Originally Posted by Herr-Berbunch

Going from you figures, I get 0.178%. I looked at those figures and did my own sums yesterday before posting, but didn't post my results - off the top of my head (cba to do it all again) and they were both in the 0.something but I thought it was even less than .001% for US.

Ok, was never great with decimals, but even with your math, there is a huge discrepancy.

[Herr-Berbunch]

Originally Posted by 1480

Ok, was never great with decimals, but even with your math, there is a huge discrepancy.

But executions are still executions, whatever the 'law' broken in the first place. My point is that the US, as a whole, cannot dictate to or look down on, or tut disapprovingly at Saudi if the US does the same for a broken law.

And your witches don't go through the judicial system - they have vigilante mobs burning down their houses and baying for blood. I've seen no end of films showing such actions, so it must be true.


I'll just point out that I'm quite right-wing in my philosophy, and I'm all for death penalties under the right circumstances - I'm just pointing out the hypocracy.

[joegrundman]

Originally Posted by Herr-Berbunch

But executions are still executions, whatever the 'law' broken in the first place. My point is that the US, as a whole, cannot dictate to or look down on, or tut disapprovingly at Saudi if the US does the same for a broken law.

And your witches don't go through the judicial system - they have vigilante mobs burning down their houses and baying for blood. I've seen no end of films showing such actions, so it must be true.


I'll just point out that I'm quite right-wing in my philosophy, and I'm all for death penalties under the right circumstances - I'm just pointing out the hypocracy.

i do not think it to be hypocritical.

While there are strong arguments against any death penalty, it is not the case that all death penalties are thereby equal and it is just your stupidity to break the law.

There is a huge difference between having the death penalty for murder and having the death penalty for witchcraft or blasphemy.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Herr-Berbunch

My point is that the US, as a whole, cannot dictate to or look down on, or tut disapprovingly at Saudi if the US does the same for a broken law.

And my point was that there is a very large difference between executing someone for violently killing several innocent people and executing someone for speaking their mind, or even for the trumped up charge of 'witchcraft'.

Not that I'm for Capital Punishment, or against it. I see the arguments for both sides and waffle back and forth on the issue.

[Karle94]

Originally Posted by 1480

Treason is still on the books for execution in the US. The only crime on the books that does not need felony murder to be eligible.

I believe it is 743 per 100,000 is the incarceration rate here in the US. 178 per 100,000 in Saudi Arabia.

US population 323 million and change. 2.3 million inmates. .001% executed

S A population 27 million and change. 48,060 inmates. 16% executed

I was never great with #'s so if I am off please correct.

Actually, the US population is 312 million.

[MH]

Since you decided to approach this problem scientifically:

[1480]

Originally Posted by Karle94

Actually, the US population is 312 million.

You right, long day and my eyes were crossed.