Doubts!? Will they release a new Silent Hunter?!

I think the base is solid through SH5.
They would just need to fix the things that need fixed and not add crap before that!

And if they don't want to do that because they don't want to sink any more $$ into it?

Allow a dedicated Group of Modders the Source Code!
At lest part of it anyway.
We could do so much and it would only put more Money in thier pockets.


OK. I woke up just now from a dream and realized how stupid that sounds to UBI.

What? Get something for free? Where's the catch?

[Obltn Strand]

This forum has some 65 000 members. I use this as a guideline to represent the number of subsim gamers around the globe.

Privateer said SH5 is solid base. Now 65 000 want's a better subsim like SH5 + additional expansion pack which has all the cool stuff like AI wolfpacks and so on. If this expansion pack costs 30$, profit is 1 350 000$ - expenses. Let's assume this expansion doesn't work without SH5 so ubisoft makes even more profits selling the original product.

I don't know nothing about computer programming. My guestion is how much subsim we can get for 1,5 to 2 million dollars?

[Angelo Cire]

Originally Posted by Obltn Strand

This forum has some 65 000 members. I use this as a guideline to represent the number of subsim gamers around the globe.

Privateer said SH5 is solid base. Now 65 000 want's a better subsim like SH5 + additional expansion pack which has all the cool stuff like AI wolfpacks and so on. If this expansion pack costs 30$, profit is 1 350 000$ - expenses. Let's assume this expansion doesn't work without SH5 so ubisoft makes even more profits selling the original product.

I don't know nothing about computer programming. My guestion is how much subsim we can get for 1,5 to 2 million dollars?

Unfortunately, companies the size of Ubisoft spend MUCH more than 2 million dollars developing games now, and expect returns in the high-tens to hundreds-of-millions. So called "AAA" games are mostly what Ubisoft focuses on making now, apart from their sport franchises.

The problem with subsims going forward is that any developing company won't want to treat it as a "sim", they'll want to do something "different" and "original" with the genre, like making your sub a home-base from which you conduct land incursions circa 2070..... or whatever they come up with, in order to turn a niche series into their next "AAA" action and/or FPS series.

Besides, "Silent Hunter" is already close enough to "Ghost Recon" or the like to make a gamer unfamiliar with the series think it an FPS just based on the name.

[Sailor Steve]

Good points. Subsim may have 65,000 members, but only a few hundred are actually active, and don't have a lot of influence on the gaming industry.

Here are some sales figures for the top-selling games.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ng_video_games

And here are some sales figures for Silent Hunter.
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...94&postcount=3

Even the worst of the best-selling games topped one million units sold. Silent Hunter doesn't even rate 10% of that. Couple that with the idea that even if Ubisoft did make a new one there is no guarantee that it would even be as good as SH5, much less a lot better.

[Fish In The Water]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Even the worst of the best-selling games topped one million units sold. Silent Hunter doesn't even rate 10% of that.

'Tis enough to make me cry in my coffee.

I guess most people just don't get it, which probably makes us eccentric, special or just plain odd. Not that it matters what they think of us, but I suppose it's all the more reason to be civil so we don't end up talking to ourselves.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Fish In The Water

eccentric

That would be you.

special

Jimbuna.

just plain odd

Hi. My name is Steve.

[Fish In The Water]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Hi. My name is Steve.

Well if you're odd it's a good odd, so three cheers for individualism and standing out from the crowd!

Originally Posted by Fish In The Water

but I suppose it's all the more reason to be civil so we don't end up talking to ourselves.

I talk to myself all the time. I even answer myself!
(It's those voices in my head that speak a different language that bother me. And they won't get a freaking job!)

[CCIP]

Honestly, I think the best thing in a sub simulator that most of us would want is simply if it took all of the good features of SHIII, put them together with all the good features of Aces of the Deep, added cutting-edge graphics, a more 'living' submarine crew and interior, a more dynamic world and an AI that can "think" both strategically and tactically, we would all be very happy.

I honestly don't see the point of reinventing the wheel, especially since there still hasn't been a subsim that nailed the basic formula perfectly - some have come close, but none have really achieved it. Only with mods and workarounds do we get close.

So if someone makes a subsim in the future, all I wish for is a sim that doesn't miss any of the basics. Call me backwards, but I don't want a revolutionary subsim that changes how we play these games.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Good points. Subsim may have 65,000 members, but only a few hundred are actually active, and don't have a lot of influence on the gaming industry.

Here are some sales figures for the top-selling games.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ng_video_games

And here are some sales figures for Silent Hunter.
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...94&postcount=3

Even the worst of the best-selling games topped one million units sold. Silent Hunter doesn't even rate 10% of that. Couple that with the idea that even if Ubisoft did make a new one there is no guarantee that it would even be as good as SH5, much less a lot better.

Looked at the PC games list on your Wiki link Steve and I can honestly say I don't have any of those games....not sure if that is a good thing or not

[Herr-Berbunch]

Originally Posted by jimbuna

Looked at the PC games list on your Wiki link Steve and I can honestly say I don't have any of those games....not sure if that is a good thing or not

Me neither.

One thing I really, really hate is going on a website that sells games and selecting 'Simulation' only to find page upon page of that dross called The Sims before getting to anything remotely simulatory.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Herr-Berbunch

Me neither.

One thing I really, really hate is going on a website that sells games and selecting 'Simulation' only to find page upon page of that dross called The Sims before getting to anything remotely simulatory.

I think my lad had the original or something of that nature.