The SH4 REPARATION PROBLEM

Lt.Hargrove · 11-17-11, 09:02 AM

Uhm, this is SH4 subforum, not SH3.

Anyway, call crash dive when you will spot an enemy plane (But remember to manually set depth if the water is shallow). And about that shallow water, give yourself an extra meter above periscope depth and often raise attack periscope for 10 seconds to navigate in tigh enviroment.

Rockin Robbins · 11-17-11, 09:22 AM

There are many categories of damage that simply cannot be fixed at sea. They require a drydock. That especially includes hull damage, which cannot even be fixed by resupplying on shore. You must end your patrol and let the boat go to drydock for that kind of repairs.

In real life the sub would be considerably more fragile than what you find unbearable. A single hole in the pressure hull would render the boat unable to dive and that condition would probably result in abandoning ship because it has become a target. The damage you are taking is much more severe than a single hole in the pressure hull.

A submarine is not some kind of little battleship. You are not Rambo. If you ARE Rambo, you are Rambo armed with a squirt gun in your underwear. It's best not to be seen. You should not allow any plane to even see you, much less bomb you.

A submarine is not an icebreaker. Ramming things sinks you and makes those on the vessel rammed laugh at you. Don't do that.

Even merchant ships have guns on stabilized platforms with functioning fire control systems. You have an unstabilized clothes drying rack with a couple of grooves in the barrel to sight with. Pointing your finger at the enemy and yelling "bang! bang!" is quicker and more lethal. Use the deck gun to dry laundry.

There is one reason Prein succeeded. What he did was impossible. Therefore his attack was not expected. Even that was not enough without strike after strike of incredible luck. The odds that he would end up feeding the fishies was much greater than that he would sink anything at all.

Similarly, you can only succeed in very unfair fights, where you are never detected, where the enemy is completely unaware and unsuspecting of your presence, and where you have a good deal of good luck.

You're thinking a submarine is some sort of super weapon out of Star Wars. It's more like a flintlock blunderbuss.

Sailor Steve · 11-17-11, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Rockin Robbins

There is one reason Prein succeeded. What he did was impossible. Therefore his attack was not expected. Even that was not enough without strike after strike of incredible luck. The odds that he would end up feeding the fishies was much greater than that he would sink anything at all.

Another reason was that he did not suddenly decide to go attack the British fleet in one of their main bases. Admiral Doenitz noticed the gap in the blockships from aerial photographs, picked a time when he knew the harbor would be mostly empty of destroyers, hand-picked Gunther Prien for the job and then the two of them did a lot of very careful planning. Of course we have hindsight and the harbor is only as dangerous as the game developers and modders make it.

Daniel Prates · 11-17-11, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Another reason was that he did not suddenly decide to go attack the British fleet in one of their main bases. Admiral Doenitz noticed the gap in the blockships from aerial photographs, picked a time when he knew the harbor would be mostly empty of destroyers, hand-picked Gunther Prien for the job and then the two of them did a lot of very careful planning.

Yeah, and that was a once-in-a-lifetime situation, save except for some other german kaleun that torpedoed a couple of tankers in some african mid-atlantic harbour, I dont remember where or when, but surely a rare situation.

I am myself a fan of harbour-rainding, but that relates to what the game allows, not to RL conditions... being slow and vulnerable in a 45-feet cristal-clear lagoon was not somewhere a captain would normally go into.

mookiemookie · 11-17-11, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Lt.Hargrove

Uhm, this is SH4 subforum, not SH3.

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=134922

11-17-11, 09:22 AM	#2
Rockin Robbins Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: DeLand, FL Posts: 8,900 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 52	There are many categories of damage that simply cannot be fixed at sea. They require a drydock. That especially includes hull damage, which cannot even be fixed by resupplying on shore. You must end your patrol and let the boat go to drydock for that kind of repairs. In real life the sub would be considerably more fragile than what you find unbearable. A single hole in the pressure hull would render the boat unable to dive and that condition would probably result in abandoning ship because it has become a target. The damage you are taking is much more severe than a single hole in the pressure hull. A submarine is not some kind of little battleship. You are not Rambo. If you ARE Rambo, you are Rambo armed with a squirt gun in your underwear. It's best not to be seen. You should not allow any plane to even see you, much less bomb you. A submarine is not an icebreaker. Ramming things sinks you and makes those on the vessel rammed laugh at you. Don't do that. Even merchant ships have guns on stabilized platforms with functioning fire control systems. You have an unstabilized clothes drying rack with a couple of grooves in the barrel to sight with. Pointing your finger at the enemy and yelling "bang! bang!" is quicker and more lethal. Use the deck gun to dry laundry. There is one reason Prein succeeded. What he did was impossible. Therefore his attack was not expected. Even that was not enough without strike after strike of incredible luck. The odds that he would end up feeding the fishies was much greater than that he would sink anything at all. Similarly, you can only succeed in very unfair fights, where you are never detected, where the enemy is completely unaware and unsuspecting of your presence, and where you have a good deal of good luck. You're thinking a submarine is some sort of super weapon out of Star Wars. It's more like a flintlock blunderbuss. __________________ Sub Skipper's Bag of Tricks, Slightly Subnuclear Mk 14 & Cutie, Slightly Subnuclear Deck Gun, EZPlot 2.0, TMOPlot, TMOKeys, SH4CMS

11-17-11, 09:02 AM	#1
Lt.Hargrove Swabbie Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 10 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Uhm, this is SH4 subforum, not SH3. Anyway, call crash dive when you will spot an enemy plane (But remember to manually set depth if the water is shallow). And about that shallow water, give yourself an extra meter above periscope depth and often raise attack periscope for 10 seconds to navigate in tigh enviroment.