Help, continuous CTD

Rommer69 · 10-28-11, 07:27 AM

Finally yesterday i had 1 hour to play.
Version 1.2.
But it was OK, no CTD. I run in high TC, in 1x, save games.
Cannot understand.....

I could play, but i did not find any ship to attack...
I am not going to make any change by the moment

kylania · 10-28-11, 12:05 PM

It's quite likely that you'll play for an hour and not run into anything.

At least it's good that it sounds like your CTD is gone!

0rpheus · 10-28-11, 12:12 PM

CTDs in this game are so infuriatingly random... it drives me mad. It's the only thing about SH5 that really bugs me still, but it seems to be different causes for different people.

I'm half-convinced that something in the SH5 code is just wrong somewhere... but I really hope someone figures it out one day!

Trevally. · 10-28-11, 12:28 PM

I think to many users come on these forums and read about all that mods - check the mod thread and install way too many.

If you read the German Ubi forums - they have about 5 mods that they suggest to people to start them off and it makes everything so much easier.

When issues happen with these 5 mods - everyone has seen the issues before and can quickly point to a fix. I have not yet seen a post there when this is not the case.

Then you get users like Magic who knows all the mods and how they work. When you get the experience that he has - then add as many as you like

TheDarkWraith · 10-28-11, 01:39 PM

I'm almost certain that > 90% of the CTDs are because the user's computer ran out of memory. SH5 is very demanding resource wise. Add mods to it and it can quickly drain all the resources from the computer. This is especially true for those using video cards with lots of memory. Yes it is great that the video card has lots of memory but what people don't know is that the computer 'sets aside' the same amount of system memory for it. So if video card has 1.5GB of memory then your system automatically has 1.5GB less of memory (figuratively). Most users have 4GB installed. Windows uses ~1.5GB so they are down to 2.5GB. Subtract large video card of 1.5GB and they have 1GB left. SH5 will use 1GB very easily and mods will definitely exceed this

I would say the minimum specs for SH5 modded is 8GB memory and a 64 bit OS. I have 8GB and Win7 64 and nVidia 590GTX video card and have NEVER experienced a CTD at random (I can say I've never experienced any CTD from SH5 so far)

Sailor Steve · 10-28-11, 02:59 PM

Fascinating. When I finally get a new computer I'll keep that in mind. Thanks, Wizard.

Silent Steel · 10-29-11, 03:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDarkWraith

I'm almost certain that > 90% of the CTDs are because the user's computer ran out of memory. I would say the minimum specs for SH5 modded is 8GB memory and a 64 bit OS. I have 8GB and Win7 64 and nVidia 590GTX video card and have NEVER experienced a CTD at random (I can say I've never experienced any CTD from SH5 so far)

I agree, no random CTD ever, only due to my mods handling (not thinking)

RAM is today rather cheap and considering all time and frustration because of these CTDs it's a reasonable option.

(I have 12GB and a Sapphire Radeon HD 6950 GPU)

oakdesign · 10-29-11, 06:00 AM

Hello Romer69,

when I started with SH5 about 3 weeks ago, I had the issue with random CTD's, too. I have the same mods as you and some others. My CTD's were not mod related they were all related to concurrent C++ 2008 Redistributable.

Do you get a Windows error message after a CTD. If yes and the error is related to MSVCR90.dll have a look into your installed programms if you have multiple entries for C++ 2008 Redistributable. If you are running a 64bit Version of Windows you might have at least 2 one with x64 and one with x86 in the name. If you have more entries listed that might be the case.

francho1961 · 11-03-11, 06:14 PM

a is my list of mods and TDC also always asking periscope depth.

: Arriba:: Saludo:

tonschk · 10-29-11, 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDarkWraith

I would say the minimum specs for SH5 modded is 8GB memory and a 64 bit OS. I have 8GB and Win7 64 and nVidia 590GTX video card and have NEVER experienced a CTD at random (I can say I've never experienced any CTD from SH5 so far)

I have 8Gb of OCZ DDR2 1066 MHz RAM memory and a video card ASUS EAH5870 with 1Gb memory and 64bit Windows 7 operating system, I never experienced any CTD playing SH5

Rommer69 · 10-31-11, 07:48 AM

Thank you all guys. Don´t know when I am going to have another time to play, but i´ll check all your suggestions.
Many of the CTD did not pop up the window of "win detected a trouble and is trying to fix it", so i have not a known error.
I will keep you updated....if necessary.
Thanks again.

Halface · 10-31-11, 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDarkWraith

I'm almost certain that > 90% of the CTDs are because the user's computer ran out of memory. SH5 is very demanding resource wise. Add mods to it and it can quickly drain all the resources from the computer. This is especially true for those using video cards with lots of memory. Yes it is great that the video card has lots of memory but what people don't know is that the computer 'sets aside' the same amount of system memory for it. So if video card has 1.5GB of memory then your system automatically has 1.5GB less of memory (figuratively). Most users have 4GB installed. Windows uses ~1.5GB so they are down to 2.5GB. Subtract large video card of 1.5GB and they have 1GB left. SH5 will use 1GB very easily and mods will definitely exceed this

I would say the minimum specs for SH5 modded is 8GB memory and a 64 bit OS. I have 8GB and Win7 64 and nVidia 590GTX video card and have NEVER experienced a CTD at random (I can say I've never experienced any CTD from SH5 so far)

kinda same specs as me i had cdt at start but my mod soup was causing it...been a while i had one now ....but theres something to what your saying .......

Marco1971 · 11-03-11, 04:18 AM

I've started a campaign after puzzling together a nice mod soup, precisely following the advices found here about the right order, patches and versions, but run in CTD's regurarly. Must be something wrong with the MOD soup, so am deactivating them one by one. I don't think it has something to do with memory, (18Gb quality RAM non-overclocked, 1,25 GB GTX470 card and slightly overclocked i7 cpu). But it's annoying not be able to use all nice things you people have created..
I agree, it's not easy (not to say impossible) to anticipate on all possible variations of MODs people use. Still i hope it won't be necessary to disable too much MODs

Theyr'e just tooo nice..

10-28-11, 12:05 PM	#2
kylania Silent Hunter Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 3,528 Downloads: 118 Uploads: 0	It's quite likely that you'll play for an hour and not run into anything. At least it's good that it sounds like your CTD is gone! __________________

10-28-11, 12:28 PM	#4
Trevally. Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: AN1536 (Orkney) Posts: 5,451 Downloads: 166 Uploads: 28	I think to many users come on these forums and read about all that mods - check the mod thread and install way too many. If you read the German Ubi forums - they have about 5 mods that they suggest to people to start them off and it makes everything so much easier. When issues happen with these 5 mods - everyone has seen the issues before and can quickly point to a fix. I have not yet seen a post there when this is not the case. Then you get users like Magic who knows all the mods and how they work. When you get the experience that he has - then add as many as you like __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Trevally Mods for SH5

10-28-11, 02:59 PM	#6
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Fascinating. When I finally get a new computer I'll keep that in mind. Thanks, Wizard. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

10-29-11, 06:00 AM	#8
oakdesign A-ganger Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 76 Downloads: 65 Uploads: 0	Hello Romer69, when I started with SH5 about 3 weeks ago, I had the issue with random CTD's, too. I have the same mods as you and some others. My CTD's were not mod related they were all related to concurrent C++ 2008 Redistributable. Do you get a Windows error message after a CTD. If yes and the error is related to MSVCR90.dll have a look into your installed programms if you have multiple entries for C++ 2008 Redistributable. If you are running a 64bit Version of Windows you might have at least 2 one with x64 and one with x86 in the name. If you have more entries listed that might be the case. __________________ ---------------------------------------------------------------- Seemann prüf dein Sackgewicht an Backbord kommt Laboe in Sicht ----------------------------------------------------------------

11-03-11, 06:14 PM	#9
francho1961 Officer Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Alicante - SPAIN Posts: 249 Downloads: 972 Uploads: 0	Greetings. a is my list of mods and TDC also always asking periscope depth. : Arriba:: Saludo:

10-28-11, 07:27 AM	#1
Rommer69 A-ganger Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Spain Posts: 72 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Finally yesterday i had 1 hour to play. Version 1.2. But it was OK, no CTD. I run in high TC, in 1x, save games. Cannot understand..... I could play, but i did not find any ship to attack... I am not going to make any change by the moment

10-28-11, 12:12 PM	#3
0rpheus Grey Wolf Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: UK Posts: 857 Downloads: 87 Uploads: 3	CTDs in this game are so infuriatingly random... it drives me mad. It's the only thing about SH5 that really bugs me still, but it seems to be different causes for different people. I'm half-convinced that something in the SH5 code is just wrong somewhere... but I really hope someone figures it out one day!

10-28-11, 01:39 PM	#5
TheDarkWraith Black Magic Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 11,962 Downloads: 147 Uploads: 5	I'm almost certain that > 90% of the CTDs are because the user's computer ran out of memory. SH5 is very demanding resource wise. Add mods to it and it can quickly drain all the resources from the computer. This is especially true for those using video cards with lots of memory. Yes it is great that the video card has lots of memory but what people don't know is that the computer 'sets aside' the same amount of system memory for it. So if video card has 1.5GB of memory then your system automatically has 1.5GB less of memory (figuratively). Most users have 4GB installed. Windows uses ~1.5GB so they are down to 2.5GB. Subtract large video card of 1.5GB and they have 1GB left. SH5 will use 1GB very easily and mods will definitely exceed this I would say the minimum specs for SH5 modded is 8GB memory and a 64 bit OS. I have 8GB and Win7 64 and nVidia 590GTX video card and have NEVER experienced a CTD at random (I can say I've never experienced any CTD from SH5 so far)

10-31-11, 07:48 AM	#11
Rommer69 A-ganger Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Spain Posts: 72 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Thank you all guys. Don´t know when I am going to have another time to play, but i´ll check all your suggestions. Many of the CTD did not pop up the window of "win detected a trouble and is trying to fix it", so i have not a known error. I will keep you updated....if necessary. Thanks again.

11-03-11, 04:18 AM	#13
Marco1971 Seaman Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Holland Posts: 37 Downloads: 162 Uploads: 0	I've started a campaign after puzzling together a nice mod soup, precisely following the advices found here about the right order, patches and versions, but run in CTD's regurarly. Must be something wrong with the MOD soup, so am deactivating them one by one. I don't think it has something to do with memory, (18Gb quality RAM non-overclocked, 1,25 GB GTX470 card and slightly overclocked i7 cpu). But it's annoying not be able to use all nice things you people have created.. I agree, it's not easy (not to say impossible) to anticipate on all possible variations of MODs people use. Still i hope it won't be necessary to disable too much MODs Theyr'e just tooo nice..