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Old 10-23-11, 02:04 PM   #1
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I just know we used to make black men sit in the back of the bus too, 100 years after they were supposed to be free.

New York and Mayor Bloomberg is very public relations concious, I have confidence in him to fix this. Then again he is also a Jew... To take the side of the heathen against a Jew is a no go...

But lawsuits talk, and law of the land (not the torah) will prevail... We hope...

The Jews can be what they are, but they should respect the rights men and women have died for if they are to prosper as a part of our society.
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Old 10-23-11, 02:07 PM   #2
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Most probibly they'll play the WWII victim card and get public symphaty
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Old 10-23-11, 02:12 PM   #3
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The Jews can be what they are, but they should respect the rights men and women have died for if they are to prosper as a part of our society.
Jeeeez...opps... oy vey take it easy lol..
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Old 10-23-11, 02:21 PM   #4
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Jeeeez...opps... oy vey take it easy lol..
I didn't come across as insulting I hope. I just lack some tact when expressing myself. People can worship this guy for all I care.

http://www.venganza.org/

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Old 10-23-11, 03:15 PM   #5
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The point here is sex segregation and not lesser treatment.
If the women are not getting lesser treatment then why are they at the back?
But look on the bright side, they havn't started making women use the emergency exit instead of having them dirtying the bus doorway yet
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Old 10-23-11, 03:30 PM   #6
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If the women are not getting lesser treatment then why are they at the back?
But look on the bright side, they havn't started making women use the emergency exit instead of having them dirtying the bus doorway yet
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I think it wrong to discriminate against people having sex on New York City buses...


... wait what?

Oh that's the subway...
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Old 10-23-11, 04:09 PM   #8
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If the women are not getting lesser treatment then why are they at the back?
So you could ask stupid questions?
Would it make you feel better if they switch around and put curtain in middle of bus?
it would be opposite to the KKK days-so no hard feelings.
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Looking like a game of chess......people!!
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So you could ask stupid questions?
It is a sensible question, its just that you don't like the answer.
But its OK I know you get all bunkery over segregated buses and shops and the "modesty police"...hey sounds like mecca don't it

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Would it make you feel better if they switch around and put curtain in middle of bus?
If the men were made to go in the back and didn't object it would prove me wrong wouldn't it. It would also demonstrate that you are correct in your rather ludicrous "segregation not lesser treatment" line.
It would be better if they kept it in temple and the home and didn't try and impose it on public transport where such discrimination is clearly illegal.
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It would be better if they kept it in temple and the home and didn't try and impose it on public transport where such discrimination is clearly illegal.
Yes it would be better.
It is the case with most orthodox Jews besides the hardcore ones.
Many orthodox Rabbis don't like the bus segregation and view it as unnecessary but there are always the hardcore zombies.

In Jerusalem you can easily ride a bus with orthodox and lite dressed women mixed together.
At rear occasions one can be asked politely to change seat to be next to a man so that woman can be next to women.
You can respect that or tell them to bugger off which happens sometimes as well.

There are also some kosher zombie lines that try to enforce the segregation mainly between strictly hardcore places...dumb as it may be.

Orthodox can be nuisance but don't have horns.
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Old 10-23-11, 05:32 PM   #12
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Questions not answered in the BBC story:

1. Does the bus service get any federal, state, or local funding or subsidies? If it does, then the practice is illegal and unconstitutional;

2. Does the bus line only serve a particular population, i.e., it does not pick up members of the public at large at regular bus stops but only provides service by subscription, for example. If it doesn't, then the practice is illegal and unconstitutional;

Religious or other factors do not apply as an exemption if the line is public and/or sudsidized by tax dollars or open to the general public...
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Questions not answered in the BBC story:

1. Does the bus service get any federal, state, or local funding or subsidies? If it does, then the practice is illegal and unconstitutional;

2. Does the bus line only serve a particular population, i.e., it does not pick up members of the public at large at regular bus stops but only provides service by subscription, for example. If it doesn't, then the practice is illegal and unconstitutional;

Religious or other factors do not apply as an exemption if the line is public and/or sudsidized by tax dollars or open to the general public...
It is a privately CONTRACTED bus by the city - which pays the contract from the public coffer - so it is recieving public funds, one way or the other.

As the bus is "public" - it would serve the public at large. As a public transportation vehicle, it would be illegal to refuse to pick up a member of the general public based on them not being part of a "specific population" group.

If this is happening - the bus contractor has stepped in the cowpie.
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