[WIP] FX Update - Page 54

crepitis · 08-18-11, 02:57 PM

Thanks TheDarkWraith and Mia389, hopefully I can sort it now and get rid of the flares

, another bit of immersion gone

, but my machine just doesnt like them !

Stormfly · 08-18-11, 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDarkWraith

...I also love puzzles and problem solving

SH5 is just one HUGE puzzle and challenge so I'm in heaven.

...better dont show him PMDG`s new NGX

Kapitan_Kaput · 09-20-11, 11:24 PM

just updated from 0.0.16 and having a small problem...ships won't fire a star shell unless I inflict double the damage needed to sink them...ships are splitting in half and I still need to do more damage to get them to fire off the flare

Philipp_Thomsen · 10-12-11, 02:42 PM

Using MO+OH2+FX+TDW UI

I figure this is FX problem. Although I saw the same issue with standard SH5.

The mushroom of fire in a catastrophic explosion, the whole animation is too fast, it should be 1/3 of the speed. In SH3 we had nice slow motion explosions, which are not really slow motion, but look like slow motion due to the size of the explosion. What I'm seeing in SH5 is making the ships look like tiny little toys.

From the start of the fire cloud explosion to the end of the animation, it's half a second. An explosion that huge (ships are huge) should last at least 2 or 3 seconds, maybe more.

I don't know if this was discussed before, I didn't find anything in my search.

Hope it's something worth looking for the next update.

TheDarkWraith · 10-12-11, 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Philipp_Thomsen

Using MO+OH2+FX+TDW UI

I figure this is FX problem. Although I saw the same issue with standard SH5.

The mushroom of fire in a catastrophic explosion, the whole animation is too fast, it should be 1/3 of the speed. In SH3 we had nice slow motion explosions, which are not really slow motion, but look like slow motion due to the size of the explosion. What I'm seeing in SH5 is making the ships look like tiny little toys.

From the start of the fire cloud explosion to the end of the animation, it's half a second. An explosion that huge (ships are huge) should last at least 2 or 3 seconds, maybe more.

I don't know if this was discussed before, I didn't find anything in my search.

Hope it's something worth looking for the next update.

nice report. Something to definitely look into

Philipp_Thomsen · 10-12-11, 03:47 PM

THIS SAYS KABOOOM!

THIS SAYS KABOOM!

THIS SAYS.... PUFF?

Philipp_Thomsen · 10-12-11, 03:49 PM

My point is, doesn't look realistic.

Doesn't look cool.

Looks boring.

A quick puff, like 1995 games.

It's strange cos everything else in the game looks absolutely fantastic.

Just my 2 cents.

kylania · 10-12-11, 03:55 PM

Other than texture detail (is that an option in game?), I'm not really seeing much of a different in shots 1 and 3. Well, 1 has the reflection too. Also remember that shot 3 includes a lot of little secondary explosions out the portholes and along the deck that add to the size of the explosion.

vlad29 · 10-12-11, 04:51 PM

There are 'Torpedo Splash' and 'Old Style explosions' mods for SH5 existing already. Try to use them, guys, and may be the issue should not be seem so unpromising

Philipp_Thomsen · 10-13-11, 02:24 PM

I have to correct what I said. I found the problem.

I recorded a catastrophic explosion and watched in slow motion.

The quality of the explosion, the fire, the smoke, the cloud, it's all very realistic, well done. Looked awesome in 25% speed (in the video), which means the explosion effect needs to be slowed down.

It feels like a puff instead of a kaboom exactly cos it's too fast.

I needed to watch in slow motion to be impressed.

That amount of details shouldn't be presented in half a second.

TDW, if you manage to slow down the explosion effects to 25% of it's actual speed, you will achieve a jaw-dropping FX.

Think about it... ships are 200 meters long, some of those balls of flame are almost that size. A 200 meter diameter ball of fire down disappear in half a second.

0rpheus · 10-13-11, 03:28 PM

Seeing this on the front page reminded me of something I've been meaning to report for ages.

http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/55...37F10F003B94E/

See the white 'stains' where the ship is sinking? I'm pretty sure they're meant to be oil slicks... it's done this since fx update 018, and 019, maybe even 16_2 as well. I've never had a proper oil slick in game.

Stormfly · 10-13-11, 03:31 PM

Philipp, i think you exactly got the point of the current explosion appearence problem, i couldnt describe it... now i see the problem !

...just hope that TDW can fix it.

THE_MASK · 10-15-11, 06:01 AM

The smoke from ship smoke stacks resetting . Is it something to do with this file ?
C:\Ubisoft\Silent Hunter 5\data\Shaders\Filters\FilterVS

If i comment out that shader than i just get a black screen where the water drops should be on screen . The smoke resets IE: smoke disapears and then reappears when the water droplets appear on the screen .

Out.ProjPos=In.Pos;//mul(matProj,In.Pos);

TheDarkWraith · 10-15-11, 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sober

The smoke from ship smoke stacks resetting . Is it something to do with this file ?
C:\Ubisoft\Silent Hunter 5\data\Shaders\Filters\FilterVS

If i comment out that shader than i just get a black screen where the water drops should be on screen . The smoke resets IE: smoke disapears and then reappears when the water droplets appear on the screen .

Out.ProjPos=In.Pos;//mul(matProj,In.Pos);

to be resetting could be that the maximum amount of particles for that generator was reached. It can't release new particles until children die off first. As a child dies a new particle will be released.

Stormfly · 10-15-11, 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDarkWraith

to be resetting could be that the maximum amount of particles for that generator was reached. It can't release new particles until children die off first. As a child dies a new particle will be released.

what about using a modified smoke generator ?

10-12-11, 02:42 PM	#799
Philipp_Thomsen Old Gang Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Drunk at the whorehouse Posts: 2,278 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	Using MO+OH2+FX+TDW UI I figure this is FX problem. Although I saw the same issue with standard SH5. The mushroom of fire in a catastrophic explosion, the whole animation is too fast, it should be 1/3 of the speed. In SH3 we had nice slow motion explosions, which are not really slow motion, but look like slow motion due to the size of the explosion. What I'm seeing in SH5 is making the ships look like tiny little toys. From the start of the fire cloud explosion to the end of the animation, it's half a second. An explosion that huge (ships are huge) should last at least 2 or 3 seconds, maybe more. I don't know if this was discussed before, I didn't find anything in my search. Hope it's something worth looking for the next update. __________________ To each his own

10-12-11, 03:47 PM	#801
Philipp_Thomsen Old Gang Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Drunk at the whorehouse Posts: 2,278 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	THIS SAYS KABOOOM! THIS SAYS KABOOM! THIS SAYS.... PUFF? __________________ To each his own

10-12-11, 03:49 PM	#802
Philipp_Thomsen Old Gang Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Drunk at the whorehouse Posts: 2,278 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	My point is, doesn't look realistic. Doesn't look cool. Looks boring. A quick puff, like 1995 games. It's strange cos everything else in the game looks absolutely fantastic. Just my 2 cents. __________________ To each his own

10-12-11, 03:55 PM	#803
kylania Silent Hunter Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 3,528 Downloads: 118 Uploads: 0	Other than texture detail (is that an option in game?), I'm not really seeing much of a different in shots 1 and 3. Well, 1 has the reflection too. Also remember that shot 3 includes a lot of little secondary explosions out the portholes and along the deck that add to the size of the explosion. __________________

10-13-11, 02:24 PM	#805
Philipp_Thomsen Old Gang Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Drunk at the whorehouse Posts: 2,278 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	I have to correct what I said. I found the problem. I recorded a catastrophic explosion and watched in slow motion. The quality of the explosion, the fire, the smoke, the cloud, it's all very realistic, well done. Looked awesome in 25% speed (in the video), which means the explosion effect needs to be slowed down. It feels like a puff instead of a kaboom exactly cos it's too fast. I needed to watch in slow motion to be impressed. That amount of details shouldn't be presented in half a second. TDW, if you manage to slow down the explosion effects to 25% of it's actual speed, you will achieve a jaw-dropping FX. Think about it... ships are 200 meters long, some of those balls of flame are almost that size. A 200 meter diameter ball of fire down disappear in half a second. __________________ To each his own

08-18-11, 02:57 PM	#796
crepitis Watch Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Bonnie Scotland Posts: 28 Downloads: 222 Uploads: 0	Thanks TheDarkWraith and Mia389, hopefully I can sort it now and get rid of the flares , another bit of immersion gone , but my machine just doesnt like them !

09-20-11, 11:24 PM	#798
Kapitan_Kaput Mate Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 52 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	just updated from 0.0.16 and having a small problem...ships won't fire a star shell unless I inflict double the damage needed to sink them...ships are splitting in half and I still need to do more damage to get them to fire off the flare

10-12-11, 04:51 PM	#804
vlad29 XO Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Arkhangelsk Posts: 427 Downloads: 324 Uploads: 0	There are 'Torpedo Splash' and 'Old Style explosions' mods for SH5 existing already. Try to use them, guys, and may be the issue should not be seem so unpromising

10-13-11, 03:28 PM	#806
0rpheus Grey Wolf Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: UK Posts: 857 Downloads: 87 Uploads: 3	Seeing this on the front page reminded me of something I've been meaning to report for ages. http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/55...37F10F003B94E/ See the white 'stains' where the ship is sinking? I'm pretty sure they're meant to be oil slicks... it's done this since fx update 018, and 019, maybe even 16_2 as well. I've never had a proper oil slick in game.

10-13-11, 03:31 PM	#807
Stormfly Serial Port Protector Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 1,424 Downloads: 370 Uploads: 0	Philipp, i think you exactly got the point of the current explosion appearence problem, i couldnt describe it... now i see the problem ! ...just hope that TDW can fix it. __________________ Stormy......

10-15-11, 06:01 AM	#808
THE_MASK Ace of the deep . Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 9,226 Downloads: 901 Uploads: 73	The smoke from ship smoke stacks resetting . Is it something to do with this file ? C:\Ubisoft\Silent Hunter 5\data\Shaders\Filters\FilterVS If i comment out that shader than i just get a black screen where the water drops should be on screen . The smoke resets IE: smoke disapears and then reappears when the water droplets appear on the screen . Out.ProjPos=In.Pos;//mul(matProj,In.Pos);