No survivors - Page 4

Sailor Steve · 09-18-11, 10:11 PM

The only thing I would ask is that rather than "Some captains...", specifics are given for each and every incident, with references. Otherwise it's just hearsay.

razark · 09-18-11, 11:05 PM

Is it time for another "Mush Morton was a war criminal" thread?

Dogfish40 · 09-19-11, 10:20 AM

For one thing, When this thread started, it had nothing to do with gunning survivors in life rafts. I just had empty lifeboats all the time and wondered why.
I'll say it again; As angry as the U.S sailors were at the IJN for Pearl, The U.S did not make a habit out of gunning down survivors in the water. On the contrary, there are dozens of instances on film and in the records of U.S submariners taking IJN prisoners out of the water!
This was something that was born from an old Navy custom for years and most navies of the world acted as civil as they could towards survivors in life rafts or in the water.
Most Submarines simply could not take in large amounts of survivors and so they were left to their fate. That is about as close to the truth as is possible in my humble estimation. Did "survivors" get shot in cold blood? Probably, on occasion.
Which Navy??
I'm very proud of the United States conduct and performance in WW2.
So, I hope we can close this thread with the fact that, Yeah,"War is Hell" and I've got my Survivors back in the Lifeboats !!!
Cheers and Good Hunting
D40

Sailor Steve · 09-19-11, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Dogfish40

I've got my Survivors back in the Lifeboats !!!

WOOHOO!

TorpexXIII · 09-21-11, 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Ace_Rimmer

I hate to say it; but often I machine gun the survivors anyways.

Bit harsh...

Arlo · 09-21-11, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by TorpexXIII

Bit harsh...

I agree. Pixels are human too.

USS Drum · 11-04-11, 11:45 PM

I hate to say it but I sometimes machine gun the rafts if I'm angry at the japanese such as failed convoy attack etc. But I get credit for the life raft kill and the crew keeps on rowing.

09-18-11, 10:11 PM	#46
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	The only thing I would ask is that rather than "Some captains...", specifics are given for each and every incident, with references. Otherwise it's just hearsay. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

09-18-11, 11:05 PM	#47
razark Ocean Warrior Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 2,731 Downloads: 393 Uploads: 12	Is it time for another "Mush Morton was a war criminal" thread? __________________ "Never ask a World War II history buff for a 'final solution' to your problem!"

09-19-11, 10:20 AM	#48
Dogfish40 Ace of the Deep Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: LA Area, Central coast, California Posts: 1,023 Downloads: 827 Uploads: 0	For one thing, When this thread started, it had nothing to do with gunning survivors in life rafts. I just had empty lifeboats all the time and wondered why. I'll say it again; As angry as the U.S sailors were at the IJN for Pearl, The U.S did not make a habit out of gunning down survivors in the water. On the contrary, there are dozens of instances on film and in the records of U.S submariners taking IJN prisoners out of the water! This was something that was born from an old Navy custom for years and most navies of the world acted as civil as they could towards survivors in life rafts or in the water. Most Submarines simply could not take in large amounts of survivors and so they were left to their fate. That is about as close to the truth as is possible in my humble estimation. Did "survivors" get shot in cold blood? Probably, on occasion. Which Navy?? I'm very proud of the United States conduct and performance in WW2. So, I hope we can close this thread with the fact that, Yeah,"War is Hell" and I've got my Survivors back in the Lifeboats !!! Cheers and Good Hunting D40 __________________ *Dogfish40*

11-04-11, 11:45 PM	#52
USS Drum Grey Wolf Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Washington State Posts: 977 Downloads: 126 Uploads: 0	I hate to say it but I sometimes machine gun the rafts if I'm angry at the japanese such as failed convoy attack etc. But I get credit for the life raft kill and the crew keeps on rowing.