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Old 09-11-11, 07:16 AM   #16
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Who's there?
I remember, I remember

Knock Knock!

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Cash!

Cash who?

No thanks, but I’d like some peanuts!
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Old 09-11-11, 10:57 AM   #17
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As a clever Roman put it almost 2000 years ago, "Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?" (Who watches the watchmen?)
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Old 09-11-11, 11:07 AM   #18
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Is it just me, or is the media "wallowing" in 9/11 sorrow? Every news channel , education channel, has run non-stop 9/11 shows. How much of this stuff can you actually watch?
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Is it just me, or is the media "wallowing" in 9/11 sorrow?
Yes, definitely! As one australian comedian brilliantly stated in twitter:

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There's a line between acknowledging / honouring the past, & fetishising the morbid. Reckon news media will stay the right side today?
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Old 09-11-11, 12:17 PM   #20
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Those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it.

I appreciate what my country has done to try and better protect itself. I appreciate my countrys soldiers who have sacrificed so much in the past for my country. It is not a perfect system...none ever is but I would not want to live in any other place on earth.

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Old 09-11-11, 01:00 PM   #22
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Is it just me, or is the media "wallowing" in 9/11 sorrow? Every news channel , education channel, has run non-stop 9/11 shows. How much of this stuff can you actually watch?
Agreed. I don't need to re-live that day and obsess over it. All this is tacky and tasteless.
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Old 09-11-11, 01:11 PM   #23
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Did you mean Jeff?
Uh-oh. He's onto us.
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Those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it.

I appreciate what my country has done to try and better protect itself. I appreciate my countrys soldiers who have sacrificed so much in the past for my country. It is not a perfect system...none ever is but I would not want to live in any other place on earth.

God Bless Amercia Love it or Leave it...

We Will Not Forget !!!
Well, as the comedian I quoted said: "There's a line between acknowledging / honouring the past, & fetishising the morbid. Reckon news media will stay the right side today?"

Currently it's just 'fetishing the morbid'.

I could say a thing or two about USA's 'self-protecting' methods but I won't as this is not the right thread for it.
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Old 09-11-11, 01:31 PM   #25
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How much of this stuff can you actually watch?
Umm, none? Families of the fallen can memorialize, but I'm just hanging out.

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Georges Santayana. As has been pointed out, there is a big difference between remembering the past, and learning the lesson, and just morbidly dwelling on it.

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People like to put down the hippies, but in the '60s, when "America - love it or leave it!" was the catch-phrase of the day, they came up with one that was equally valid: "America - change it or lose it!"
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So, working to change the parts that don't work is not an option? Someone might want to explain that to the Tea Party. (And the Democrats, and the Republicans, and every other political party)

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Because every year, you will be pounded over the head with the same message!
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Old 09-11-11, 03:50 PM   #27
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Uh-oh. He's onto us.
Most definitely
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THINKING people are out to get you is a sign of being crazy.
KNOWING you two are involved?

That just proves I'm not as crazy as I think I am!

I'm not sure that came out right.
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People like to put down the hippies, but in the '60s, when "America - love it or leave it!" was the catch-phrase of the day, they came up with one that was equally valid: "America - change it or lose it!"
The problem with catch phrases is they are always too vague.

For instance love what about America? That we enjoy a higher standard of living and personal liberty that anywhere else? If a person hates that then I hope the door does hit them on the butts on their way out.

On the other side of the coin "change it" means many things to different people. The hippies themselves couldn't agree on what to change. Personally I am kind of leery about changing a society that has served us pretty well for the past two centuries. We stand to loose an awful lot if one of these ill conceived social experiments go wrong.
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That we enjoy a higher standard of living and personal liberty that anywhere else?
Than anywhere else? Hardly.
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