Post your highest patrol tonnage scores here,WITH evidence

[theroc44]

Originally Posted by SubConscious

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My father served aboard three US Navy destroyers in WWII from 1939 to 1945. The Hammann was sunk along with the Yorktown by torpedoes from a Japanese I-boat at Midway; the Bristol was sunk by a U-boat; and the Isherwood was struck by a kamikaze at Leyte Gulf. As a kid, I asked him why he didn't keep in contact with his friends from the Navy. His reply was "They're all dead."

I think about this when I play SH3/GWX.

It brings me back to reality when i read about actual WW2 survivors and how scary it really was. You dad is a hero and we all owe him a debt. Its sad how few even think about WW2, but i always remember, its coulda turned out a whole lot different from where it finished. And if it wasnt for young americans and young brits we would be in a different world now.

[Paul Riley]

I just wish to mention here (for anyone that may be doubting my level of 'seriousness' towards the game) that I play with 85% realism having only map contacts and stabilize view 'on' ,I play the game like a true sim operating in the area BDU sent me and taking full precautions in all my actions,however after a few days in the assigned area and if there is no action then I usually assign myself new patrol zones,in no way do I play this game like a 'shooting gallery' ,no,what happened to me would have happened to anyone with any amount of aggression and initiative in them,you fortuitously encounter a large convoy containing a major battleship in a most random manner 'out of the blue',and you take your chances and attack them like a wolf,never letting them go!.
As I mentioned earlier,this was the only time I ever encountered a major warship and successfully destroyed it,and its instilled in me a great bloodlust now,just like the Viking berserkers i've read so much about hehehe
I KNOW some of you will understand me here,if not,you'll know it when it happens,and its great!

"He who wants to be victorious on the sea must always attack!" ...not my words.

[theroc44]

Originally Posted by Paul Riley

its instilled in me a great bloodlust now,just like the Viking berserkers i've read so much about hehehe
I KNOW some of you will understand me here,if not,you'll know it when it happens,and its great!

"He who wants to be victorious on the sea must always attack!" ...not my words.

Send'em all to the bottom Riley...Herr Kapitan

[Paul Riley]

Originally Posted by theroc44

Send'em all to the bottom Riley...Herr Kapitan

Thats the spirit son

[GoDeep]

Originally Posted by theroc44

And if it wasnt for young americans and young brits we would be in a different world now.

* cough* And young French, Russians, Belgians, Dutch, Poles, Filipinos, Australians, Canadians, New Zealanders, South Africans, Chinese, Indians, Norwegians, Danes, Yugoslavians, Brazilians, Czechoslovakians, Greeks and many others who made contributions with either men or material... *cough* (Apologies if I overlooked some!)

Not trying to diminish the important role played by US and British forces, but many more nations fought and suffered on the side of the Allies in World War 2.

As to the shooting gallery vs. playing the game as a serious simulation discussion, I don't think it is really possible to play the game as a shooting gallery. If you treat the game like that, especially with GWX installed, you're going to end up very dead very quickly.
Sure, you can set the realism all the way down and that may be fun for a while. But I don't think that is where the heart of subsimmers is at. Obviously I can't speak for everyone, but from the discussions I've seen here over the years, I think most of the active members are interested in the role of the u-boat in the Battle of the Atlantic. They are interested in what was possible historically, not what is possible in this simulation. They want at least a decent enough dose of realism. Shooting galleries are attractive to people who play other types of games, imho.

Speaking for myself, my current career is played at 59% realism. Why? Well, I like the eye-candy of the external camera, I like to get an overview of the mighty convoys as they make their way across the Atlantic. I want to see that majestic battleship. I am not using manual targeting, mainly because I wasn't feeling ready when I began this career but this is probably going to change.

Like Paul's encounter with the Nelson, it was possible to get lucky like that in real life. In my current career, I sank the "Warspite" at Narvik because it happened to pass by me at the right time. What sub commander could pass up a target of opportunity like that? The game can be challenging, interesting and frustrating all at the same time. You can be in terrible weather and just beyond your visible horizon, a task force or huge convoy might sail by unnoticed. Or there might be no traffic around for miles. Some patrols you get lucky, some patrols you don't. I've also had those patrols of weeks of bad weather with no traffic to be found.

If luck is on your side on a patrol though, I think you've earned the bragging rights. I think that's what this thread started out to be, really. Sub captains bragging about their most glorious moments.

[Paul Riley]

Originally Posted by GoDeep

* cough* And young French, Russians, Belgians, Dutch, Poles, Filipinos, Australians, Canadians, New Zealanders, South Africans, Chinese, Indians, Norwegians, Danes, Yugoslavians, Brazilians, Czechoslovakians, Greeks and many others who made contributions with either men or material... *cough* (Apologies if I overlooked some!)

Not trying to diminish the important role played by US and British forces, but many more nations fought and suffered on the side of the Allies in World War 2.

As to the shooting gallery vs. playing the game as a serious simulation discussion, I don't think it is really possible to play the game as a shooting gallery. If you treat the game like that, especially with GWX installed, you're going to end up very dead very quickly.
Sure, you can set the realism all the way down and that may be fun for a while. But I don't think that is where the heart of subsimmers is at. Obviously I can't speak for everyone, but from the discussions I've seen here over the years, I think most of the active members are interested in the role of the u-boat in the Battle of the Atlantic. They are interested in what was possible historically, not what is possible in this simulation. They want at least a decent enough dose of realism. Shooting galleries are attractive to people who play other types of games, imho.

Speaking for myself, my current career is played at 59% realism. Why? Well, I like the eye-candy of the external camera, I like to get an overview of the mighty convoys as they make their way across the Atlantic. I want to see that majestic battleship. I am not using manual targeting, mainly because I wasn't feeling ready when I began this career but this is probably going to change.

Like Paul's encounter with the Nelson, it was possible to get lucky like that in real life. In my current career, I sank the "Warspite" at Narvik because it happened to pass by me at the right time. What sub commander could pass up a target of opportunity like that? The game can be challenging, interesting and frustrating all at the same time. You can be in terrible weather and just beyond your visible horizon, a task force or huge convoy might sail by unnoticed. Or there might be no traffic around for miles. Some patrols you get lucky, some patrols you don't. I've also had those patrols of weeks of bad weather with no traffic to be found.

If luck is on your side on a patrol though, I think you've earned the bragging rights. I think that's what this thread started out to be, really. Sub captains bragging about their most glorious moments.

Amen to that.
Nothing wrong with a little basking in the sun while we can,before the storm erupts again
In my particular case the Nelson encounter was totally spontaneous,I was about 300km west of France at the time waiting for traffic arriving from Gibraltar and I had no idea of their presence until I got a radio contact (I believe they departed Liverpool heading for Gibraltar) a few days prior,I then predicted their position for about 3 days from then and steamed into position,and they arrived as predicted down to the day.I took my chances,shadowed them until nightfall and descended on them with much fervor.It really was an epic moment,the sceenshots I posted dont really do what I experienced much justice to be honest.

Cheers.

[SubConscious]

Originally Posted by Paul Riley

its instilled in me a great bloodlust now,just like the Viking berserkers i've read so much about hehehe

As a fellow aficionado of Viking sagas, you might recognize this:

"When the war-gods meet
to match their might
who can tell the bravest born?
Many a hero never made a hole
in another man's breast."

This seems to be appropriate for U-boat Kaleuns.

[flag4]

Originally Posted by SubConscious

I think the honor system would suffice. After all, we're all Kaleuns here, bound by oath to serve, protect, and give our undying allegiance to Jimbuna.

BEWARE THE DESPOT by wich ever name he comes. ladies included.

[FIREWALL]

Originally Posted by SubConscious

I think the honor system would suffice. After all, we're all Kaleuns here, bound by oath to serve, protect, and give our undying allegiance to Jimbuna.

I am a positive person by nature and like to think the best of people here and else where.

Read my Post #11 Sadly it isn't going to happen and, I think it would make a Great and Fun Competition. but those Realism and Capt. log can be easily Edited before posting.

Now were back to the Honor system. I saw that in action and was thoroughly saddened.


This has probably been tried in the past and, beyond alot of memories.

But what the hay. Set it up in one of the Single Missions. Where all agree on Mission, The same Boat and year and, Same Realism settings.

I all can be done in Single Missions and Screenshot Tonnage to post here. And give a Starting and Ending time. Say 1 week for those with RL duties.

And give this Honor System a try.

[theroc44]

Originally Posted by GoDeep

* cough* And young French, Russians, Belgians, Dutch, Poles, Filipinos, Australians, Canadians, New Zealanders, South Africans, Chinese, Indians, Norwegians, Danes, Yugoslavians, Brazilians, Czechoslovakians, Greeks and many others who made contributions with either men or material... *cough* (Apologies if I overlooked some!)

Not trying to diminish the important role played by US and British forces, but many more nations fought and suffered on the side of the Allies in World War 2.

I didnt mean to leave anyone out, it was a WORLD war after all, no offense intended by leaving out the remaining allies, i was merely posting to what he said, sorry if left anyone out, my bad

[SubConscious]

I've read that the Poles suffered the worst - over 16% of their population was killed during the war. They were horribly persecuted by both the Germans and Russians.

Now that I'm pushing 50, I have a different view of the war. As a young man, it was easy to believe the history books and documentaries that vilified the Germans and Japanese. My thinking now is that the citizens of many countries suffered from the decisions made by their leaders, and from the consequences of believing the propaganda fed to them.

To me, the heroes are those few individuals who broke from convention and did what was right, recognizing that we're all on this Earth for a relatively short time and that life is precious. Whether saving another or showing mercy when it wasn't expected to me is a demonstration of what I believe is one of the most important qualities a person can possess: Compassion.

To clarify, I think there are situations in which a lack of compassion is warranted, particularly towards criminals.

Guess I've wandered completely off topic. Now back to your regularly scheduled program, already in progress.

I suspect Paul started this thread as he was pleased taking advantage of a difficult target of opportunity and wished to share his experience.

Sinking an escorted battleship on the high seas and escaping is certainly a nice gaming accomplishment in SH3 at high realism levels so congrats Paul.

On the other hand as noted by others by implication or explicitly, these successes are relative and so just posting tonnages is not any sort of reflection upon how difficult, enjoyable or challenging a single patrol might be. With or without any evidence.

My all time greatest game patrol was in AOTD way back when it was new, with a January 1945 sailing and an allotted patrol area off the Western Approaches. Only sank two Liberty Ships (about 14k GRT) but also an escort carrier, cruiser and a couple of corvettes taken in self defence or as targets of opportunity and got back safely to Trondheim in late February damaged but alive. You could save AOTD in contact with the enemy and at one point spent over 20-hours evading counter-attacks. AOTD did not count warship tonnage but the warship score was high enough to be awarded command of a Type XXI. Was at sea in my shiny new boat when the war ended and those familiar with AOTD might recall the arrival screen, complete with kill banners (white for merchants, red for warships and blue for troop ships as I recall), bands playing and flags flying. Not like that at all after 6 May 1945. Sorry no evidence to show but of all the patrols in all the subsims I ever played since Red Storm Rising, that January-February Type VIIC patrol was the only one where the details have stuck so vividly.

I expect the reason why I am addicted to late war patrols in SH3 GWX is a desire to recreate that AOTD episode from some 15-years ago.

From a tonnage standpoint it was a pretty poor effort but that patrol stands out in my mind as the best gaming experience I have ever had. Bar none.

So I submit that the measure of a patrol is not tonnage sunk, difficulty or the slick screen shots but in how much enjoyment was derived from executing it. Good Show sinking Nelson, Paul. May it also be a highlight of your gaming experience.

[Fish In The Water]

@SubConscious: Really enjoyed reading your post. Shades of gray, compassion, couldn't agree more...

[Paul Riley]

Originally Posted by Randomizer

I suspect Paul started this thread as he was pleased taking advantage of a difficult target of opportunity and wished to share his experience.

Sinking an escorted battleship on the high seas and escaping is certainly a nice gaming accomplishment in SH3 at high realism levels so congrats Paul.

On the other hand as noted by others by implication or explicitly, these successes are relative and so just posting tonnages is not any sort of reflection upon how difficult, enjoyable or challenging a single patrol might be. With or without any evidence.

My all time greatest game patrol was in AOTD way back when it was new, with a January 1945 sailing and an allotted patrol area off the Western Approaches. Only sank two Liberty Ships (about 14k GRT) but also an escort carrier, cruiser and a couple of corvettes taken in self defence or as targets of opportunity and got back safely to Trondheim in late February damaged but alive. You could save AOTD in contact with the enemy and at one point spent over 20-hours evading counter-attacks. AOTD did not count warship tonnage but the warship score was high enough to be awarded command of a Type XXI. Was at sea in my shiny new boat when the war ended and those familiar with AOTD might recall the arrival screen, complete with kill banners (white for merchants, red for warships and blue for troop ships as I recall), bands playing and flags flying. Not like that at all after 6 May 1945. Sorry no evidence to show but of all the patrols in all the subsims I ever played since Red Storm Rising, that January-February Type VIIC patrol was the only one where the details have stuck so vividly.

I expect the reason why I am addicted to late war patrols in SH3 GWX is a desire to recreate that AOTD episode from some 15-years ago.

From a tonnage standpoint it was a pretty poor effort but that patrol stands out in my mind as the best gaming experience I have ever had. Bar none.

So I submit that the measure of a patrol is not tonnage sunk, difficulty or the slick screen shots but in how much enjoyment was derived from executing it. Good Show sinking Nelson, Paul. May it also be a highlight of your gaming experience.

Thanks
Yes,I took my opportunity and did my duty (so to speak).I merely wanted to express the feeling of pride and some pity (watching him go down without a fight) too at such an epic experience.It really was a highlight of SH3 for me,and probably wont experience anything like that for a long while yet.

[Jimbuna]

BE MORE AGGRESSIVE!!