Tax the rich? 14 Facts you may want to consider first.

[Anthony W.]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

Does he?

Borrowed it perhaps?

His own money, the companies money or the banks money?
Or all three?

That is how it is with business.

That is what an owner does, you put money in and if all goes well you take money out. Though he could go to a bank for a loan or try and get investors who will put money in with the aim of taking money out.

Has property tax suddenly changed in a massive way or is that an expense the business should be planned to accomodate from day 1. After all your business revenue isn't counted till your liabilities have been covered.

Yes, the statement questions if you know how a business works?

How bout this? Go **** yourself. You have no god damn place in my statement.

Can someone please explain to me how the block feature works on this forum?

[HunterICX]

Let me pull a Steve on you Anthony W

from the FAQ:

Please use language that you would use around your mother. No vulgarities, obscenities, hate speech, or foul language. Do not use *******ing w*rds with aster*cks, that's the same thing as vulgar language.

So watch that language will ya?

and as for the Ingore list

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/faq....ublesome_users

HunterICX

[nikimcbee]

I like bacon.

[Morts]

Originally Posted by nikimcbee

I like bacon.

Wrapped around porkchops, and sprinkled with paprika, its fantastic.

[Hottentot]

Originally Posted by nikimcbee

I like bacon.

I can't afford bacon!

untill every single last person on the goverment dole who gets a free ride has to pay a flat minimum tax on everything they recieve then nothing will be solved. if everyone pays the same tax rate poor and rich alike then the class warfare can stop and the control goverment has over our lives will fade away.

the lovely truth in this country is people living off of the goverment are stuck in a system specificly designed to keep them solely dependent on the goverments free handouts to survive and because of that, out of self preservation, they must never vote for anyone who wants to stop the free gravy train they need to survive, therefore the more poor people you have = more control of our lives by goverment who will make damn sure if you are poor you can never get unpoor because they made the rules designed to cut off all of the help you you need if you ever do anything to try to better yourself.

try to go to school or learn a new skill or trade = lose your benefits (because you arent available to work if you are a student)
do some odd jobs to supliment your low income = lose your benefits (because you have "some" income and it doesnt have to be a living wage just $1 and you have "some" income that disqualifies you according to the rules)
get a part time job = lose your benefits (same as above, even with proof you will starve to death without your benefits, you have to quit your job to get your benefits back or they will subtract dollar for dollar so you end up working totally for free)
sacrifice and save hard to put even as little as $1000 in the bank = lose your benefits (because you have assets of value so you have to blow it all at the casino before you get your benefits back)

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by Webster

untill every single last person on the goverment dole who gets a free ride has to pay a flat minimum tax on everything they recieve then nothing will be solved. if everyone pays the same tax rate poor and rich alike then the class warfare can stop and the control goverment has over our lives will fade away.

What's going to raise more money? Raising taxes on the those who bring in 90% of the total wealth in this country, or the rest who bring in 10%? It's very simple math.

Class warfare? They started it. They're the ones who engineered the greatest transfer of wealth from the middle class in history. Screw 'em. If the rich want a class war, we'll give it to them. They always lose that fight anyways.

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

What's going to raise more money? Raising taxes on the those who bring in 90% of the total wealth in this country, or the rest who bring in 10%? It's very simple math.

Class warfare? They started it. They're the ones who engineered the greatest transfer of wealth from the middle class in history. Screw 'em. If the rich want a class war, we'll give it to them. They always lose that fight anyways.

how about the 50% of all workers in america who pay $0.00 in taxes every year, even if they only pay $100 a year each thats billions in new tax revenue.

they will be paying taxes with the money goverment gives them so it costs them nothing but in turn, because they are paying taxes, the rules can be changed so they can be allowed to do the very things they want to do in order to better themselves and get out of the dependancy and poverty they live in which they arent allowed to do now under the excuse that its cost savings to cut anyones benefits if they dare to try to not be poor.

as to "If the rich want a class war, we'll give it to them." i missed the front page news where rich people came out and declared war on the poor and middle class? the rich never declared war on anyone anymore then that flower pot in the corner did.

i will give you a choice, there is a guy just like you standing over there and i tell you to choose to make him pay more so you dont have to pay anything for taxes or you and he will both pay the same percentage of your income. now how many people will choose to pay an equal amount based on their income or choose a free ride because they can?

thats why they cry about make the rich pay more and if i was rich and had to pay more then the 60% of my income i already pay then i would start laying off employees because if you cant keep your profits then you have no profits and if you have no profits why pay employees? you have no reason to risk losing money in a buisness if the reward you might get is taken away.

if YOU had to pay 60% of your paycheck in taxes would you think you need to pay more taxes just because congress likes to spend lots of money?

i will say this about the rich and upper middle class, there needs to be means testing to recieve social security. people who dont "need" it shouldnt get it because there are a huge number of people getting checks that are sucking the system dry when they have no real need for the money.

[Tchocky]

Originally Posted by Webster

how about the 50% of all workers in america who pay $0.00 in taxes every year

[citation needed]

[Stealhead]

I say that congress should give the lower class and middle class free bacon if they did this the corporate powers could do as they pleased and eliminate the middle class(they will be so happy with the bacon) and congressmen will also love it because it is bacon and they can put those pork barrels they have to good use at at last no one will be calling it "pork barrel" spending any more they will just say, "mmmmm bacon!"

How bout this? Go **** yourself. You have no god damn place in my statement.

An interesting viewpoint.
It doesn't make any sense though.
So young man, why do you not know how a business works?
How about some simple sums, if someones personal income appears sufficient to clear a bank liablity how much money is wasted in a single year on servicing an $800,000 debt(without considering any penalty clauses)?

By what proportion would the property taxes have to be raised in a year to negate any saving made in paying off a loan?

[gimpy117]

We need to end the tax havens, clear and simple.

We need to end the tax havens, clear and simple.

How?
How much would it cost?
How big would the political diplomatic and business fallout be?
How much would that fallout cost?

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by gimpy117

We need to end the tax havens, clear and simple.

Here in Utah we give a tax break for each child. Mormon families with 9 kids pay hardly any taxes. Their schooling is covered by folks who decided to help the population problem by not having any children. Is that what you meant.

We need to end taxes, clear and simple. Unfortunately that's not possible. What we need to do is reduce all government until it does nothing but govern. The Federal Government was created to keep the States on the straight and narrow and to present a solidified face to all other countries. That's it. Of course from the beginning that has not been all it's used for, and that can never be.

I don't think we'll ever be on the right track until all elected officials are of the opinion that taxes are a necessary evil. Since that will never happen, we'll never be on the right track.

All that said, I agree. If we're going to have taxes we need to keep people from avoiding them.

[kraznyi_oktjabr]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

All that said, I agree. If we're going to have taxes we need to keep people from avoiding them.

I'm 22 years-old now and I doubt that this would pass in Capitol Hill in my lifetime. Would be nice to proven to be wrong though.